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[2013 TRC] New Zealand vs South Africa in Auckland (14/09/2013)
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<blockquote data-quote="ABs2011" data-source="post: 591629" data-attributes="member: 57663"><p>I think we will see Nonu back in this game, might also see Messam starting and Luatua off the bench.</p><p>Wont comment on the forwards because I am just not that familiar with the SA players (no doubt will be quite familiar by Saturday night though! - you've likely got those match ups right though although I'd have Read any day so might argue that one isn't "marginal") In the backs though (from a biased Kiwi perspective) I would argue Willie<Ben Smith and Habana (who I massively respect as one of the better wingers the world has seen) I would argue is < Savea these days.</p><p></p><p>On the game at hand...First and foremost it is clear the Ozzies are poop so I'm not sure we can read much into the quality of either the NZ or SA performances against them. Given that it makes this match up between SA and ABs very intriguing as I think there are a lot of unknowns. What we do know though is that Eden Park will be a very tough place for the SAs to get a win. I would say the SAs will try and take us on up front, I sometimes think they over do this and forget to use their backs, but we will see on the day how they approach it. You'd imagine the SA will have the edge in the scrum, and maybe in the forwards overall, but will that be enough to counter the points the the creativity of the NZ backs create? McCaw is a massive loss as well but I think Carter will step up as he always does in the big games (I belive these days he plays at about 80% most of the time - but steps up to 110% when needed. Watch how much more he takes on the line when it's a big game).</p><p></p><p>I think NZ will win, but only just. Unless proved otherwise IMHO NZ is still the best team in the world, they are generally more skilled than their opponents, they know how to score points and know how to win.</p><p></p><p>That being said, I am extrememly nervous about this match. Hugely respect these SA lads and think they hvae every chance of upsetting the ABs at home. Looking forward to thte game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ABs2011, post: 591629, member: 57663"] I think we will see Nonu back in this game, might also see Messam starting and Luatua off the bench. Wont comment on the forwards because I am just not that familiar with the SA players (no doubt will be quite familiar by Saturday night though! - you've likely got those match ups right though although I'd have Read any day so might argue that one isn't "marginal") In the backs though (from a biased Kiwi perspective) I would argue Willie<Ben Smith and Habana (who I massively respect as one of the better wingers the world has seen) I would argue is < Savea these days. On the game at hand...First and foremost it is clear the Ozzies are poop so I'm not sure we can read much into the quality of either the NZ or SA performances against them. Given that it makes this match up between SA and ABs very intriguing as I think there are a lot of unknowns. What we do know though is that Eden Park will be a very tough place for the SAs to get a win. I would say the SAs will try and take us on up front, I sometimes think they over do this and forget to use their backs, but we will see on the day how they approach it. You'd imagine the SA will have the edge in the scrum, and maybe in the forwards overall, but will that be enough to counter the points the the creativity of the NZ backs create? McCaw is a massive loss as well but I think Carter will step up as he always does in the big games (I belive these days he plays at about 80% most of the time - but steps up to 110% when needed. Watch how much more he takes on the line when it's a big game). I think NZ will win, but only just. Unless proved otherwise IMHO NZ is still the best team in the world, they are generally more skilled than their opponents, they know how to score points and know how to win. That being said, I am extrememly nervous about this match. Hugely respect these SA lads and think they hvae every chance of upsetting the ABs at home. Looking forward to thte game. [/QUOTE]
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