JJR
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What ratings would you feel your team's players should have in Rugga 2012...if your team is present.
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JJR
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The Sharks- (top attribute)
1.Beast-86 (strength-94)
2.Bizmark du plessis-86 (strength- 90)
3.Jannie du plessis- 83 (scrumming- 86)
4.Steven Sykes-80 (work rate- 87)
5.Gerhard Mostert-80 (rucks/clearing- 87)
6.Keegan Daniel-84 (speed/strength/agility- 87)
7.Jean Deysel-86 (power- 95)
8.Ryan Kankowski-84 (strength/speed- 86)
9.Charl Mcloed-80 (speed/passing- 84)
10.Patrick Lambie-84...90 with age (vision/passing -87)
11.Lwazi Mvovo- 80 (strength/speed- 85)
12.Meyer Bosman-82 (passing- 86)
13. Jacques-Louis Potgieter- 82 at 10...80 at 13 (kicking/speed- 86)
14.JP Pieterson- 83 (strength/speed- 84)
15.Louis Ludik- 78 (tackling- 84)
16. John Smit- 84 (line-outs-90)
17. Eugene van Staden- 80 (workrate- 85)
18. Ross skeate- 78 (agility/workrate- 84)
19. Willem Alberts- 86 (strength/power-92)
20. Conrad Hoffman- 78 (agility/passing-83)
21. Adrian Jacobs- 80 (acceleration/vision -86)
22. Odwa Ndungane- 78 (workrate- 85)
Main Reserves-
Craig Burden- 80 (workrate/explosive power- 88)
Kyle Cooper- 82 (Crash ball/Explosive power- 89)
Wiehahn Herbst- 82 (Scrumming- 86)
Jacques Botes- 82 (Workrate- 92)
Luzuko Vulindlu- 80 (Tackling- 87)
Anton Bresler- 80 (Clearing- 86)
Andre Pretorius
Jerome Pretorius- 80 (Speed- 86)
1.Beast-86 (strength-94)
2.Bizmark du plessis-86 (strength- 90)
3.Jannie du plessis- 83 (scrumming- 86)
4.Steven Sykes-80 (work rate- 87)
5.Gerhard Mostert-80 (rucks/clearing- 87)
6.Keegan Daniel-84 (speed/strength/agility- 87)
7.Jean Deysel-86 (power- 95)
8.Ryan Kankowski-84 (strength/speed- 86)
9.Charl Mcloed-80 (speed/passing- 84)
10.Patrick Lambie-84...90 with age (vision/passing -87)
11.Lwazi Mvovo- 80 (strength/speed- 85)
12.Meyer Bosman-82 (passing- 86)
13. Jacques-Louis Potgieter- 82 at 10...80 at 13 (kicking/speed- 86)
14.JP Pieterson- 83 (strength/speed- 84)
15.Louis Ludik- 78 (tackling- 84)
16. John Smit- 84 (line-outs-90)
17. Eugene van Staden- 80 (workrate- 85)
18. Ross skeate- 78 (agility/workrate- 84)
19. Willem Alberts- 86 (strength/power-92)
20. Conrad Hoffman- 78 (agility/passing-83)
21. Adrian Jacobs- 80 (acceleration/vision -86)
22. Odwa Ndungane- 78 (workrate- 85)
Main Reserves-
Craig Burden- 80 (workrate/explosive power- 88)
Kyle Cooper- 82 (Crash ball/Explosive power- 89)
Wiehahn Herbst- 82 (Scrumming- 86)
Jacques Botes- 82 (Workrate- 92)
Luzuko Vulindlu- 80 (Tackling- 87)
Anton Bresler- 80 (Clearing- 86)
Andre Pretorius
Jerome Pretorius- 80 (Speed- 86)
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mohamed_ali12
Academy Player
Bath -
1. Nathan Catt - 80
2. Lee Mears - 81
3. Davey Wilson - 82
4. Stuart Hooper - 77
5. Danny Grewcock - 79
6. Simon Taylor - 81
7. Lewis Moody - 84
8. Luke Watson - 84
9. Michael Claassens - 82
10. Butch James - 88
11. Matt Banahan - 81
12. Olly Barkley - 83
13. Shontayne Hape - 82
14. Matt Carrarro - 80
15. Nick Abendanon - 82
16. Pieter Dixon - 76
17. David Flatman - 77
18. Duncan Bell - 76
19. Ignacio Fernandez Lobbe - 76
20. Guy Mercer - 75
21. Mark McMillan - 76
22. Sam Vesty - 76
23. Jack Cuthbert - 77
1. Nathan Catt - 80
2. Lee Mears - 81
3. Davey Wilson - 82
4. Stuart Hooper - 77
5. Danny Grewcock - 79
6. Simon Taylor - 81
7. Lewis Moody - 84
8. Luke Watson - 84
9. Michael Claassens - 82
10. Butch James - 88
11. Matt Banahan - 81
12. Olly Barkley - 83
13. Shontayne Hape - 82
14. Matt Carrarro - 80
15. Nick Abendanon - 82
16. Pieter Dixon - 76
17. David Flatman - 77
18. Duncan Bell - 76
19. Ignacio Fernandez Lobbe - 76
20. Guy Mercer - 75
21. Mark McMillan - 76
22. Sam Vesty - 76
23. Jack Cuthbert - 77
JJR
Bench Player
Springboks (excluding The Sharks ratings that i have already done)-
1.Beast
2.Bissie
3.Jannie
4.Bakkies- 84
5. Matfield- 89
6. Burger- 86
7. Smith- 86
8. Spies- 85
9.Fourie- 90 (best scrummie in the world)
10. Steyn- 83
11. Habana- 82
12. JDV- 86
13. J Fourie- 86
14. JPP
15. F Steyn- 86
16.Smit
17.Cj van der linde- 82
18. Andries Bekker- 85
19. Willem Alberts/Deysel
20. Francois Hougaard- 83
21. Patty Lambie
22. Juan de Jongh- 82
1.Beast
2.Bissie
3.Jannie
4.Bakkies- 84
5. Matfield- 89
6. Burger- 86
7. Smith- 86
8. Spies- 85
9.Fourie- 90 (best scrummie in the world)
10. Steyn- 83
11. Habana- 82
12. JDV- 86
13. J Fourie- 86
14. JPP
15. F Steyn- 86
16.Smit
17.Cj van der linde- 82
18. Andries Bekker- 85
19. Willem Alberts/Deysel
20. Francois Hougaard- 83
21. Patty Lambie
22. Juan de Jongh- 82
MunsterMan
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Munster -
1. Wian du Preez - 80
2. Jerry Flannery - 83
3. Tony Buckley - 75
4. Donncha O'Callaghan - 84
5. Paul O'Connell - 86
6. James Coughlan - 77
7. David Wallace - 85
8. Denis Leamy - 83
9. Tomás O'Leary - 77
10. Ronan O'Gara - 83
11. Johne Murphy - 77
12. Sam Tuitupou - 75
13. Keith Earls - 81
14. Doug Howlett - 86
15. Paul Warwick - 80
16. Damien Varley - 77
17. Marcus Horan - 72
18. John Hayes -73
19. Mick O'Driscoll - 75
20. Alan Quinlan - 77
21. Peter Stringer - 77
22. Lifemi Mafi - 75
23. Denis Hurley - 73
1. Wian du Preez - 80
2. Jerry Flannery - 83
3. Tony Buckley - 75
4. Donncha O'Callaghan - 84
5. Paul O'Connell - 86
6. James Coughlan - 77
7. David Wallace - 85
8. Denis Leamy - 83
9. Tomás O'Leary - 77
10. Ronan O'Gara - 83
11. Johne Murphy - 77
12. Sam Tuitupou - 75
13. Keith Earls - 81
14. Doug Howlett - 86
15. Paul Warwick - 80
16. Damien Varley - 77
17. Marcus Horan - 72
18. John Hayes -73
19. Mick O'Driscoll - 75
20. Alan Quinlan - 77
21. Peter Stringer - 77
22. Lifemi Mafi - 75
23. Denis Hurley - 73
All Blacks
1. Tony Woodcock - 86
2. Kevin Mealamu - 89
3. Owen Franks - 86
4. Brad Thorn - 88
5. Sam Whitelock - 86
6. Jerome Kaino - 87
7. Richie McCaw - 95
8. Kieren Read - 90
9. Peri Weepu - 88
10. Daniel Carter - 95
11. Hosea Gear - 90
12. Ma'a Nonu - 88
13. Conrad Smith - 92
14. Cory Jane - 90
15. Mils Muliaina - 92
16. Andrew Hore - 86
17. Ben Franks - 82
18. Ali Williams - 88
19. Liam Messam - 81
20. Jimmy Cowan - 84
21. Stephen Donald - 4
22. Sitivini Sivivatu - 88
R. John Afoa - 85
R. Hika Elliot - 82
R. Chris Jack - 86
R. Daniel Braid - 83
R. Alby Mathewson - 84
R. Colin Slade - 82
R. Sonny Bill Williams - 86
R. Israel Dagg - 85
Others from New Zealand (classic active players)-
Tana Umaga - 90
Jonah Lomu - 90
Joe Rokocoko - 90
Jerry Collins - 90
Doug Howlett - 90
Carl Hayman - 90
Byron Kelleher - 90
Marty Holah - 85
Xavier Rush - 86
Nick Evans - 88
Kees Meeuws - 86
Greg Summerville - 86
1. Tony Woodcock - 86
2. Kevin Mealamu - 89
3. Owen Franks - 86
4. Brad Thorn - 88
5. Sam Whitelock - 86
6. Jerome Kaino - 87
7. Richie McCaw - 95
8. Kieren Read - 90
9. Peri Weepu - 88
10. Daniel Carter - 95
11. Hosea Gear - 90
12. Ma'a Nonu - 88
13. Conrad Smith - 92
14. Cory Jane - 90
15. Mils Muliaina - 92
16. Andrew Hore - 86
17. Ben Franks - 82
18. Ali Williams - 88
19. Liam Messam - 81
20. Jimmy Cowan - 84
21. Stephen Donald - 4
22. Sitivini Sivivatu - 88
R. John Afoa - 85
R. Hika Elliot - 82
R. Chris Jack - 86
R. Daniel Braid - 83
R. Alby Mathewson - 84
R. Colin Slade - 82
R. Sonny Bill Williams - 86
R. Israel Dagg - 85
Others from New Zealand (classic active players)-
Tana Umaga - 90
Jonah Lomu - 90
Joe Rokocoko - 90
Jerry Collins - 90
Doug Howlett - 90
Carl Hayman - 90
Byron Kelleher - 90
Marty Holah - 85
Xavier Rush - 86
Nick Evans - 88
Kees Meeuws - 86
Greg Summerville - 86
JJR
Bench Player
We should try and rate guys that 90 is like one of the best players in history...like Fifa. Not even Fifa guys reach 90 rating.
JJR
Bench Player
How would macaw get 95 rating? Speed-70 max strength- 75 fetching- 90 tackling-80 ball carrying-70-75...etc...how can he get to 95? Never...
dan the man
Bench Player
Regardless of what McCaw gets, everyone else in the game will have a lower rating cause he's the best player in the world!!!
brusselsbarbarian
Academy Player
made me chuckle, because it's true.
dan the man
Bench Player
Haha, maybe he should get about 80 when he plays for Waikato or the Chiefs, but when he pulls on the black jersey he drops to about 60
Will Simpson
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England; 82
1, Dan Cole 83
2, Dylan Hartley 84
3, Andrew Sheridan 81
4, Courtney Lawes 82
5, Tom Palmer 80
6, Tom Croft 83
7, Lewis Moody 85
8, Nick Easter 82
9, Ben Youngs 83
10, Johnny Wilkinson 87
11, Mark Cueto 80
12, Shontayne Hape 80
13, Mike Tindall 84
14, Chris Ashton 85
15, Ben Foden 84
16, Tim Payne 81
17, Steve Thompson 84
18, David Wilson 80
19, Simon Shaw 82
20, Hendre Fourie 83
21, Danny Care 82
22, Toby Flood 84
23, Delon Armitage 81
Leeds Carnegie; 75
1, Mike MacDonald 76
2, Steve Thompson 84
3, Jaun Gomez 73
4, Tom Denton 72
5, Marco Wentzel 79
6, Rhys Oakley 77
7, Hendre Fourie 83
8, Daniel Browne 78
9, Warren Fury 76
10, Ceiron Thomas 76
11, Michael Stephenson 79
12, Scott Barrow 76
13, Henry Fafilli 74
14, Lee Blackett 77
15, Leigh Hinton 73
16, Gareth Hardy 74
17, Phil Nilsen 71
18, Gareth Denman 69
19, Danny Paul 72
20, Kearnan Myall 72
21, Scott Mathie 72
22, Luther Burrell 73
23, James Tinknell 74
1, Dan Cole 83
2, Dylan Hartley 84
3, Andrew Sheridan 81
4, Courtney Lawes 82
5, Tom Palmer 80
6, Tom Croft 83
7, Lewis Moody 85
8, Nick Easter 82
9, Ben Youngs 83
10, Johnny Wilkinson 87
11, Mark Cueto 80
12, Shontayne Hape 80
13, Mike Tindall 84
14, Chris Ashton 85
15, Ben Foden 84
16, Tim Payne 81
17, Steve Thompson 84
18, David Wilson 80
19, Simon Shaw 82
20, Hendre Fourie 83
21, Danny Care 82
22, Toby Flood 84
23, Delon Armitage 81
Leeds Carnegie; 75
1, Mike MacDonald 76
2, Steve Thompson 84
3, Jaun Gomez 73
4, Tom Denton 72
5, Marco Wentzel 79
6, Rhys Oakley 77
7, Hendre Fourie 83
8, Daniel Browne 78
9, Warren Fury 76
10, Ceiron Thomas 76
11, Michael Stephenson 79
12, Scott Barrow 76
13, Henry Fafilli 74
14, Lee Blackett 77
15, Leigh Hinton 73
16, Gareth Hardy 74
17, Phil Nilsen 71
18, Gareth Denman 69
19, Danny Paul 72
20, Kearnan Myall 72
21, Scott Mathie 72
22, Luther Burrell 73
23, James Tinknell 74
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What i'd like to see is the system fifa has, where players start at a set rating, and improve as the game goes on. So a player like Ben Foden would start at 81 and develop to maybe 89 or something. This is a great thing in fifa as you recruit younger players and develop them and in rugby that'd work very well.
Also the rating could drop according to form in the last 5 games. So like has been said, Stephen Donald could reach 82, but if he has a poor run of games, his rating will drop. Also, World Rankings would be a nice touch. Basically, live team and player ratings. They don't have to be real-time, but can be realistic to the game.
Also the rating could drop according to form in the last 5 games. So like has been said, Stephen Donald could reach 82, but if he has a poor run of games, his rating will drop. Also, World Rankings would be a nice touch. Basically, live team and player ratings. They don't have to be real-time, but can be realistic to the game.
beerholder
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i agree, but this should only work in season mode. i think this thread is for the default ratings.
JJR
Bench Player
Ritchie is the most overrated player i know...all he does well is make a bladdy mess of the breakdown...that is pretty much it. Heinrich Brussouw is a proper fetcher...ritchie is the spoiler and gets away with it just because he has a (C) next to his name. Best players in the world Dan carter (as much as i hate to say it),fourie du preez, Victor Matfield and Mils Muli.
TVH11
First XV
The way of working out ratings obviously is a bit vague atm so i've waited a bit to see what people have been saying about their own sides, and then going from that. Any other welshies out there are more than welcome to help me out with my ratings (may be extremely biased to my region 
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Wales - trying to be as non biased as possible (Form has been poop as of the last year and a bit but still a load of players that are "top tier" performers - At least Northern Hemisphere). Saying a starting lineup for us is a bit tricky atm cause Gatland is chopping and changing every game but this is "my" starting 15 anyways.
1. Gethin Jenkins 84
2. Mathew Rees 82
3. Adam Jones 86/7 (if the bench mark so far for everyone with tightheads is 86 then i'm going with that for adam cause he's arguably one of the best 3's in the World
4. Bradley Davies 82
5. Alun-Wyn Jones 81
6. Dan Lydiate/Ryan Jones 81 (Same thing as below but different emphasis on stats - Ryan may even be 2nd row)
7. Martyn Williams/ Sam Warbuton 82 (same kinda rating but emphasis on different stats)
8. Jonathan Thomas 81
9. Mike Phillips 81
10. Stephen Jones 80
11. Shane Williams 85/6 (this is one which even my fellow country men will debate heavily over, but i still feel that he's world class, even if he's getting on. Without him Wales or ospreys have no spark)
12. Jamie Roberts 84
13. James Hook 84
14. Lee Halpenny/George North 81
15. Lee Byrne - 80 (Form over last year has been crap but still by the world cup will be half decent, at least i hope)
The Ospreys (Again theres only a few club sides been posted so far so i can't really compare to much - so i'll compare to what munsterman rates his squad cause the ospreys and munster seem evenly matched)
1. Paul James 80
2. Richard Hibbard 79
3. Adam Jones 86
4. Ryan Jones 81
5. Alun-Wyn Jones 81
6. Jerry Collins 82
7. Marty Holah 83
8. Jonathan Thomas 81
9. Mike Phillips 81
10. Dan Biggar 79
11. Shane Williams 85/6
12. James Hook 84
13.Andrew Bishop 80
14. Tommy Bowe 84/5
15. Lee Byrne 80
)Wales - trying to be as non biased as possible (Form has been poop as of the last year and a bit but still a load of players that are "top tier" performers - At least Northern Hemisphere). Saying a starting lineup for us is a bit tricky atm cause Gatland is chopping and changing every game but this is "my" starting 15 anyways.
1. Gethin Jenkins 84
2. Mathew Rees 82
3. Adam Jones 86/7 (if the bench mark so far for everyone with tightheads is 86 then i'm going with that for adam cause he's arguably one of the best 3's in the World
4. Bradley Davies 82
5. Alun-Wyn Jones 81
6. Dan Lydiate/Ryan Jones 81 (Same thing as below but different emphasis on stats - Ryan may even be 2nd row)
7. Martyn Williams/ Sam Warbuton 82 (same kinda rating but emphasis on different stats)
8. Jonathan Thomas 81
9. Mike Phillips 81
10. Stephen Jones 80
11. Shane Williams 85/6 (this is one which even my fellow country men will debate heavily over, but i still feel that he's world class, even if he's getting on. Without him Wales or ospreys have no spark)
12. Jamie Roberts 84
13. James Hook 84
14. Lee Halpenny/George North 81
15. Lee Byrne - 80 (Form over last year has been crap but still by the world cup will be half decent, at least i hope)
The Ospreys (Again theres only a few club sides been posted so far so i can't really compare to much - so i'll compare to what munsterman rates his squad cause the ospreys and munster seem evenly matched)
1. Paul James 80
2. Richard Hibbard 79
3. Adam Jones 86
4. Ryan Jones 81
5. Alun-Wyn Jones 81
6. Jerry Collins 82
7. Marty Holah 83
8. Jonathan Thomas 81
9. Mike Phillips 81
10. Dan Biggar 79
11. Shane Williams 85/6
12. James Hook 84
13.Andrew Bishop 80
14. Tommy Bowe 84/5
15. Lee Byrne 80
Duckdee
First XV
I'm going to round to the nearest 5.
1 Marcos Ayerza 80
2 George Chuter 70
3 Martin Castrogiovanni/Dan Cole 80
4 Louis Deacon 65
5 George Skivington 75
6 Tom Croft 85
7 Craig Newby 70
8 Jordan Crane/Thomas Waldrom 75
9 Ben Youngs 85
10 Toby Flood 80
11 Alessanna Tuilagi 70
12 Anthony Allen 65
13 Matt Smith 70
14 Scott Hamilton 75
15 Geordan Murphy 75
Billy Twelvetrees 70
1 Marcos Ayerza 80
2 George Chuter 70
3 Martin Castrogiovanni/Dan Cole 80
4 Louis Deacon 65
5 George Skivington 75
6 Tom Croft 85
7 Craig Newby 70
8 Jordan Crane/Thomas Waldrom 75
9 Ben Youngs 85
10 Toby Flood 80
11 Alessanna Tuilagi 70
12 Anthony Allen 65
13 Matt Smith 70
14 Scott Hamilton 75
15 Geordan Murphy 75
Billy Twelvetrees 70
JJR
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