A Political Thread pt. 2

[Which Tyler]

TBF, Maggie was inspirational.
Divisive, but inspirational.

Somehow, Boris was also inspiration.
Incompetent, lazy and narcissistic, but inspirational.

 

[Deleted member 88328]

TBF, Maggie was inspirational.
Divisive, but inspirational.

Somehow, Boris was also inspiration.
Incompetent, lazy and narcissistic, but inspirational.

I guess Boris aspired to do as little work as possible. He did a damn good job of it too

 

[Reiser99]

Labour must know people are voting for them because they dislike the tories, right? I don't think I've actually heard anyone praise Labour for being inspirational etc.

I'd say the majority of voters vote to keep out either Labour or Conservatives. Realistically with our system those 2 parties are the only ones with a chance of power.

 

[Which Tyler]

As of this moment in time, Conservatives (72 councillors) are in 3rd place, behind Labour (198) and Lib Dem (76)

137 v 140 in the important battle (to the LDs)
45/107 declared

 

[Deleted member 88328]

Curtice: What have we learned from local elections?

Curtice: What have we learned from local elections?

www.bbc.co.uk

Tories look set to lose about 500 seats

 

[Reiser99]

Lol, Conservatives won the Tees Valley Mayor election because the guy basically ran as an independent in all but name making 0 reference to Sunak in his campaign and they are bigging it up as a win for the Conservative government. Still amazed Sunak took on this poisoned chalice. Wonder if it was naivety or arrogance that made him think he could actually win back support...

 

[ncurd]

Lol, Conservatives won the Tees Valley Mayor election because the guy basically ran as an independent in all but name making 0 reference to Sunak in his campaign and they are bigging it up as a win for the Conservative government. Still amazed Sunak took on this poisoned chalice. Wonder if it was naivety or arrogance that made him think he could actually win back support...

It was his only chance can't see the Tories back in power for a decade.

 

[Saintjay]

Inspirational is a bit overrated. You only need a jfk, Obama, (idk who uk equivalent is) once or twice a century.

just want someone who can steer the ship and makes the country suck less than they say it did before.

The bullshit with the tories isn't gonna stop when Labour takes over. Starmer is going to have his hands full fixing things and dealing with new things.

Labour will dine out on we are fixing the Tory mess for a few years before it starts to get thin. Then people will want to see real change.

The trouble being the can't rock the boat on the brexit voting red wall seats as they need the votes. Especially when a high amount of the so called thick brexit gammons are switching back to labour.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Labour will dine out on we are fixing the Tory mess for a few years before it starts to get thin. Then people will want to see real change.

The trouble being the can't rock the boat on the brexit voting red wall seats as they need the votes. Especially when a high amount of the so called thick brexit gammons are switching back to labour.

It's amazing how people will vote in a party who make an absolute mess of things, give another lot a little time to fix it before quickly deciding they should give the lot who created the mess the chance to fix their mess again...

Personally I want PR rather than FPTP to hopefully temper the worst aspects of each party and reduce the "not being the other guy" vote, but there's little chance of that in this country.

 

[BrokenWing]

Suspect this might get a passing mention on tomorrow's HIGNFY.

Boris Johnson turned away from polling station after forgetting to bring photo ID

Former PM made the requirement to bring photo ID a stipulation of the Elections Act in 2022

www.theguardian.com

"Do you know who I am?"

"Yep"

 

[General Melchett]

It's amazing how people will vote in a party who make an absolute mess of things, give another lot a little time to fix it before quickly deciding they should give the lot who created the mess the chance to fix their mess again...

Personally I want PR rather than FPTP to hopefully temper the worst aspects of each party and reduce the "not being the other guy" vote, but there's little chance of that in this country.

It's basically a duopoly with no prospect of any other party getting a sniff. It only changes when either Labour or Con support switching to PR but FPTP suits them both as it's guaranteed power as soon as the public have had enough of the other lot messing up. Political parties should have to earn a mandate - not get one by default because the other lot are so bad.

I personally hate broad church parties like the Tories. They are so badly divided and just leads to instability.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I imagined it a bit like where Humphrey tries to get into number 10.

 

[Deleted member 88328]

 

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[Ragey Erasmus]

Just shows how efficient Tory propaganda has been in painting ULEZ as both a disgrace and as Khan's idea, completely distancing themselves form the fact the central government bent him over a barrel during Covid and demanded the expansion of ULEZ (in addition to attempting to undermine London underground because, shock horror, it couldn't turn a profit when there were no commuters).

 

[Deleted member 88328]

Just shows how efficient Tory propaganda has been in painting ULEZ as both a disgrace and as Khan's idea, completely distancing themselves form the fact the central government bent him over a barrel during Covid and demanded the expansion of ULEZ (in addition to attempting to undermine London underground because, shock horror, it couldn't turn a profit when there were no commuters).

Indeed. I do think certain politicians in every party come across as very odd though. Khan and Wes Streeting stick out to me as that. Both don't seem to quite fit the narrative of the party they're in. Like, if Streeting moved to the tories in the future, I would not be surprised at all. Khan has always come across as incredibly distinct to the average persons needs...might have spent too long enjoying the finer elements of his job.

As for the trains...didn't Mick Lynch say even when they didn't turn a profit during covid, the managers got paid? Those contracts are terrible.

 

[Which Tyler]

In the important race (outside of London)
102 or 107 councils declared.
Labour: 1,026 councillors
Lib Dem: 500 councillors
Conservative: 468 councillors

Pseudo-officially the 3rd party now.
Brilliant day for the Greens as well, going from 100 to 158

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Just shows how efficient Tory propaganda has been in painting ULEZ as both a disgrace and as Khan's idea, completely distancing themselves form the fact the central government bent him over a barrel during Covid and demanded the expansion of ULEZ (in addition to attempting to undermine London underground because, shock horror, it couldn't turn a profit when there were no commuters).

ULEZ, LTNs, 20mph speed limits - let the culture wars on cars begin and what begins in London spreads to other areas. It's crazy really when we really do need to get people using their cars less. Showing Tories really don't give a **** about climate change or the biggest issue of our age - to decarbonise our economy. And only about power.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

It's hilariou

In the important race (outside of London)
102 or 107 councils declared.
Labour: 1,026 councillors
Lib Dem: 500 councillors
Conservative: 468 councillors

Pseudo-officially the 3rd party now.
Brilliant day for the Greens as well, going from 100 to 158

It's hilarious when you look at how rags like the Express try to skew this. Apparently this is a disaster for the Tories, bad for Labour but fantastic for Reform, who are dead last with 2 councillors. Even the workers party of Britain got more.

 

[Saintjay]

ULEZ, LTNs, 20mph speed limits - let the culture wars on cars begin and what begins in London spreads to other areas. It's crazy really when we really do need to get people using their cars less. Showing Tories really don't give a **** about climate change or the biggest issue of our age - to decarbonise our economy. And only about power.

SNP broke off with the greens and ditched parts of it's climate pledge. Wales Labour changing a number of the 20mph limits. Cambridge Labour run just ditched it's congestion charge ideas because of the back lash.

Nobody in powers gives a monkeys about the climate when it might impact votes. Khan to his credit stood firm on it.