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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 1195882" data-attributes="member: 73592"><p>I think we had the discussion around the Harry Potter TV series before.</p><p>Personally, I generally try to separate the art from the artist - but I don't always succeed - which in turn means I'm more towards the not-boycotting end of the scale by inclination.</p><p>I also try to balance my personal decisions on the severity of the offence, and how many others such a boycott (if widespread enough to cause cancellation) would be hurt. And, of course, trying to tie it to the norms of the time the offence was committed.</p><p></p><p>I think I brought up examples of Clapton, JKR-as-author and JKR-as-showrunner before.</p><p>Clapton as a solo artist, or JKR as author seem like a well targetted boycotts. As in, yeah, there are a few other people who'd be effected, the sound technician or the editor, for example, but 99% of the impact would be felt by the individual. Equally, they won't be harmed at all by me boycotting things of theirs that I already own.</p><p>On the other hand, my reading of potter isn't likely to be affected by her stance on Trans-rights, as it just doesn't come up in those books (though I believe it does in her detective novels, which aren't my genre). But my listening of some of Clapton's lyrics, and singing of things like Swing Low will absolute be tarnished by his views. For Gaiman, some of the stories (Caliope springs to mind immediately) would be tarnished, and as part of an anthology such as Sandman, that would probably spread.</p><p>JKR (or Gaiman) as show-runner - yes, they're a driving force and will be personally impacted by a possible cancellation, but so will 1 dozen directors who are even more of a driving force, and another dozen producers who may or may not be equally involved, not to mention the principle actors who would be massively affected, and the bit-part actors who might struggle to get another job in the industry - the camera-men, CGI artists and hundreds to thousands of others who are heavily involved in the project, even if they're not the faces...</p><p>So it's just... more complicated than that - for me at least.</p><p></p><p>Gaiman-specific allegations probably need a thread of their own - but yeah, so far, they seem more disappointing than abhorrent. coerced consent and/or power differentials rather than a frank lack of consent - which in turn is a relatively new form/severity of offence. NB, I believe some of the Gaiman allegations are pretty historic, but others are more recent - I generally rely on Ali to tell me these things as I have no time for celebrity gossip, and she's refusing to look into these as she's a huge Gaiman-fan and is wanting to not tarnish his works in her mind's eye. She largely (but not entirely) agree with me on the above, as we do discuss these things in the round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 1195882, member: 73592"] I think we had the discussion around the Harry Potter TV series before. Personally, I generally try to separate the art from the artist - but I don't always succeed - which in turn means I'm more towards the not-boycotting end of the scale by inclination. I also try to balance my personal decisions on the severity of the offence, and how many others such a boycott (if widespread enough to cause cancellation) would be hurt. And, of course, trying to tie it to the norms of the time the offence was committed. I think I brought up examples of Clapton, JKR-as-author and JKR-as-showrunner before. Clapton as a solo artist, or JKR as author seem like a well targetted boycotts. As in, yeah, there are a few other people who'd be effected, the sound technician or the editor, for example, but 99% of the impact would be felt by the individual. Equally, they won't be harmed at all by me boycotting things of theirs that I already own. On the other hand, my reading of potter isn't likely to be affected by her stance on Trans-rights, as it just doesn't come up in those books (though I believe it does in her detective novels, which aren't my genre). But my listening of some of Clapton's lyrics, and singing of things like Swing Low will absolute be tarnished by his views. For Gaiman, some of the stories (Caliope springs to mind immediately) would be tarnished, and as part of an anthology such as Sandman, that would probably spread. JKR (or Gaiman) as show-runner - yes, they're a driving force and will be personally impacted by a possible cancellation, but so will 1 dozen directors who are even more of a driving force, and another dozen producers who may or may not be equally involved, not to mention the principle actors who would be massively affected, and the bit-part actors who might struggle to get another job in the industry - the camera-men, CGI artists and hundreds to thousands of others who are heavily involved in the project, even if they're not the faces... So it's just... more complicated than that - for me at least. Gaiman-specific allegations probably need a thread of their own - but yeah, so far, they seem more disappointing than abhorrent. coerced consent and/or power differentials rather than a frank lack of consent - which in turn is a relatively new form/severity of offence. NB, I believe some of the Gaiman allegations are pretty historic, but others are more recent - I generally rely on Ali to tell me these things as I have no time for celebrity gossip, and she's refusing to look into these as she's a huge Gaiman-fan and is wanting to not tarnish his works in her mind's eye. She largely (but not entirely) agree with me on the above, as we do discuss these things in the round. [/QUOTE]
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