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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 572997" data-attributes="member: 48703">Not denying he has been a great player. But I disagree with the excuses made for performance at Toulon which is frankly rubbish (he was not getting game time because he was poor, not the other way round), and also in recent times a lot of the &quot;improvement&quot; made in the 6 Nations for example is just coat tailing off Adam (he didn&#039;t do much after the 6N for Toulon).&nbsp; And he has struggled with nearly every other tighthead over the past few years whether it be Vickery, Filise, Paul James (as a tighthead), Andrews, Jarvis, Hayman or Kubriashvili. Some of those aren&#039;t bad tightheads at all. His loose work is slightly slower than it has been in the past as well with a few ****ling injuries here and there and putting on a bit of podge, in short he is past his best and Healy is more dynamic, younger, fresher and faster. Not to say that Gethin ihasn&#039;t been a quality player.Greenwood wore 13 as he played most of his career at centre with Mike Catt who was a 10/12 and less of a 13, so Greenwood moved to 13. He wore 12 for England and the Lions as well a few times.&lt;iframe width=&quot;400&quot; height=&quot;225&quot; src=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/embed/c2USK9DolxU?rel=0#t=60&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot; allowfullscreen=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;<a href="http://www.lionsrugby.com/history/match_archives.php?section=lineups&amp;fixid=58552" target="_blank">http://www.lionsrugby.com/history/match_archives.php?section=lineups&amp;fixid=58552</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 572997, member: 48703"] Not denying he has been a great player. But I disagree with the excuses made for performance at Toulon which is frankly rubbish (he was not getting game time because he was poor, not the other way round), and also in recent times a lot of the "improvement" made in the 6 Nations for example is just coat tailing off Adam (he didn't do much after the 6N for Toulon). And he has struggled with nearly every other tighthead over the past few years whether it be Vickery, Filise, Paul James (as a tighthead), Andrews, Jarvis, Hayman or Kubriashvili. Some of those aren't bad tightheads at all. His loose work is slightly slower than it has been in the past as well with a few ****ling injuries here and there and putting on a bit of podge, in short he is past his best and Healy is more dynamic, younger, fresher and faster. Not to say that Gethin ihasn't been a quality player. Greenwood wore 13 as he played most of his career at centre with Mike Catt who was a 10/12 and less of a 13, so Greenwood moved to 13. He wore 12 for England and the Lions as well a few times. <iframe width="400" height="225" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/c2USK9DolxU?rel=0#t=60" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> [URL]http://www.lionsrugby.com/history/match_archives.php?section=lineups&fixid=58552[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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