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<blockquote data-quote="danny" data-source="post: 235617"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Dec 30 2008, 10:57 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=368822" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>OK, you're an Israeli and you live under the bombardment of a few rockets or you're a Palestinian and you live under the bombardment of open military warfare, shellfire, airstrikes and the rest of it. It's like a little girl throwing down serves and Nadal powering them back.</p><p></p><p>If you take the attitude 'people have the right to defend themselves' you get in all sorts of problems. It assumes a continuous threat that is unpreventable. It's why people carry knives. It's why Americans like their guns. 'Self-defence' breeds more violence; it starts a cycle of revenge.</p><p></p><p>The Palestinians have a very good argument for why they should have land in that part of the world. The Israelis also have a good argument. One act of violence is always retaliated to, and has been since the Zionists first got their way. The Palestinians firing rockets is just as much 'self defence' as the Israelis actions. Put simply, it gets neither side nowhere in terms of peace. The only way forward in the Middle East is a ceasefire from both sides. Which means firm leadership from the Palestinians to stop rogue elements from causing violence. And needs self-control from Israel who can't resist deploying their military.</p><p></p><p>Is this likely? Not very. But if both sides were tolerant, were able to enter a ceasefire and resist recommencing war even if there were a few more agressive acts from uncontrolled elements, then they might put an end to the petty **** they're doing to each other.</p><p></p><p>Either way these people make the arseholes in Northern Ireland look saintly. Odd how so much violence is caused by such stupid reasons.</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p>You seem to be forgetting that poor little Hamas and the Palestinians are backed up by other nations who want to see the destruction of Israel. Its easy to take the side of Palestine as the underdog but Israel are surrounded by their enemies and they have to show strength.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="danny, post: 235617"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Dec 30 2008, 10:57 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=368822']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> OK, you're an Israeli and you live under the bombardment of a few rockets or you're a Palestinian and you live under the bombardment of open military warfare, shellfire, airstrikes and the rest of it. It's like a little girl throwing down serves and Nadal powering them back. If you take the attitude 'people have the right to defend themselves' you get in all sorts of problems. It assumes a continuous threat that is unpreventable. It's why people carry knives. It's why Americans like their guns. 'Self-defence' breeds more violence; it starts a cycle of revenge. The Palestinians have a very good argument for why they should have land in that part of the world. The Israelis also have a good argument. One act of violence is always retaliated to, and has been since the Zionists first got their way. The Palestinians firing rockets is just as much 'self defence' as the Israelis actions. Put simply, it gets neither side nowhere in terms of peace. The only way forward in the Middle East is a ceasefire from both sides. Which means firm leadership from the Palestinians to stop rogue elements from causing violence. And needs self-control from Israel who can't resist deploying their military. Is this likely? Not very. But if both sides were tolerant, were able to enter a ceasefire and resist recommencing war even if there were a few more agressive acts from uncontrolled elements, then they might put an end to the petty **** they're doing to each other. Either way these people make the arseholes in Northern Ireland look saintly. Odd how so much violence is caused by such stupid reasons. [/b][/quote] You seem to be forgetting that poor little Hamas and the Palestinians are backed up by other nations who want to see the destruction of Israel. Its easy to take the side of Palestine as the underdog but Israel are surrounded by their enemies and they have to show strength. [/QUOTE]
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