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Wales v Ireland, 02/02/13
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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 548326" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>I don't think he should have started, but lineout (his normal weakness) went okay actually. So I don't think he was that bad. Up his marks to about 6.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That penalty was what I call "flop penalties". When both sides just collapse on impact and the referee just blows a penalty to avoid <em>another</em> reset. That can happen at any game and is bad luck, but he wasn't going backwards getting dominated at any time and was helping out Gethin Jenkins who has been struggling with scrums this past year with Toulon or with Wales against Samoa in November.</p><p></p><p>Paul James + Adam Jones = <a href="http://youtu.be/wSSEovES4DY?t=1h29m35s" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/wSSEovES4DY?t=1h29m35s</a></p><p></p><p>Just proving why James should have started. And also 5 for Adam Jones just for 1 penalty, which was through bad luck is unfair. Especially when he made up for it when Paul James came on and there was the only scrummage that was clearly dominant for either side in the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>8? Good effort for him maybe, but he lacks quality for test level. Gave away 2 of the 3 penalties that Ireland kicked and had a bad handling error. Effort and work ethic only gets you so far when you lack skill. Should be down to 5, and make way for Kohn next match.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That lineout reasoning was the same excuse that was used for selecting Jonathan Thomas for so long. Shingler wasn't quite as bad as 2 perhaps 4 would be fairer, but shouldn't have started (none of the Scarlets back row should be in the Wales starting team imo), the coaches should hopefully realise their error of not selecting Tipuric next week.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree here. 6 fair, unfortunately Biggar is always hounded more than others after mistakes. But every player gets charged down once in a while (it's even happened to Dan Carter in the first seconds of the test match conceding a try once <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YVZ9WjRwrg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YVZ9WjRwrg</a>), and it's hardly a regular problem for him where it happens too much. Was decent other than that mistake. Biggar needs to be given faith and a run of games throughout the tournament.</p><p></p><p>My ratings:</p><p>Jenkins - 4</p><p>Rees - 6</p><p>Jones - 6</p><p>Coombs - 5</p><p>Evans - 6</p><p>Shingler - 4</p><p>Warburton - 4</p><p>Faletau - 8</p><p>Phillips - 4</p><p>Biggar - 6</p><p>North - 6</p><p>Roberts - 4</p><p>Davies - 3</p><p>Cuthbert - 4</p><p>Halfpenny - 7</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dropping Jonathan Davies completely is kneejerk. He had a poor game, but Scott Williams would have lunlikely been much better and is an worse passer than him normally anyway. Also I don't like that people still think of Jamie Roberts is undroppable, he was fine in defence but Bishop could do that equally well, but again offered little in attack. At least Jonathan Davies looked more like to make breaks. I agree about Hook into midfield though.</p><p></p><p>Also those saying drop Cuthbert for Walker due to Cuthbert's defence, need to consider that Walker's positioning in defence could improve. And Draggs, if one of the bosh wingers has to make way to offer some variation it should be Cuthbert not North.</p><p></p><p>Also keeping Coombs ahead of Ian Evans is silly imo. Ian Evans is still of much better quality, and has proven that over the long term to be a much better player. Also should be fitter next week as well hopefully.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 548326, member: 48703"] I don't think he should have started, but lineout (his normal weakness) went okay actually. So I don't think he was that bad. Up his marks to about 6. That penalty was what I call "flop penalties". When both sides just collapse on impact and the referee just blows a penalty to avoid [I]another[/I] reset. That can happen at any game and is bad luck, but he wasn't going backwards getting dominated at any time and was helping out Gethin Jenkins who has been struggling with scrums this past year with Toulon or with Wales against Samoa in November. Paul James + Adam Jones = [url]http://youtu.be/wSSEovES4DY?t=1h29m35s[/url] Just proving why James should have started. And also 5 for Adam Jones just for 1 penalty, which was through bad luck is unfair. Especially when he made up for it when Paul James came on and there was the only scrummage that was clearly dominant for either side in the game. 8? Good effort for him maybe, but he lacks quality for test level. Gave away 2 of the 3 penalties that Ireland kicked and had a bad handling error. Effort and work ethic only gets you so far when you lack skill. Should be down to 5, and make way for Kohn next match. That lineout reasoning was the same excuse that was used for selecting Jonathan Thomas for so long. Shingler wasn't quite as bad as 2 perhaps 4 would be fairer, but shouldn't have started (none of the Scarlets back row should be in the Wales starting team imo), the coaches should hopefully realise their error of not selecting Tipuric next week. I agree here. 6 fair, unfortunately Biggar is always hounded more than others after mistakes. But every player gets charged down once in a while (it's even happened to Dan Carter in the first seconds of the test match conceding a try once [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YVZ9WjRwrg[/url]), and it's hardly a regular problem for him where it happens too much. Was decent other than that mistake. Biggar needs to be given faith and a run of games throughout the tournament. My ratings: Jenkins - 4 Rees - 6 Jones - 6 Coombs - 5 Evans - 6 Shingler - 4 Warburton - 4 Faletau - 8 Phillips - 4 Biggar - 6 North - 6 Roberts - 4 Davies - 3 Cuthbert - 4 Halfpenny - 7 Dropping Jonathan Davies completely is kneejerk. He had a poor game, but Scott Williams would have lunlikely been much better and is an worse passer than him normally anyway. Also I don't like that people still think of Jamie Roberts is undroppable, he was fine in defence but Bishop could do that equally well, but again offered little in attack. At least Jonathan Davies looked more like to make breaks. I agree about Hook into midfield though. Also those saying drop Cuthbert for Walker due to Cuthbert's defence, need to consider that Walker's positioning in defence could improve. And Draggs, if one of the bosh wingers has to make way to offer some variation it should be Cuthbert not North. Also keeping Coombs ahead of Ian Evans is silly imo. Ian Evans is still of much better quality, and has proven that over the long term to be a much better player. Also should be fitter next week as well hopefully. [/QUOTE]
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