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<blockquote data-quote="munstermuffin" data-source="post: 1129639" data-attributes="member: 39240"><p>True. Alot of Munster whinge about Irish selections been bias toward Leinster. 100% but christ I have never seen anyone go to lengths that curls for example and a few are going to. There is whinging and there is conspiracy theories. Christ Frank Murphy apologised was 1 of best ones yet.</p><p></p><p>In 2002 I was involved with Munster. Not on the pitch but do you know what many Munster fans were like after that day?</p><p>Joel Jutge did not get 1 insult. No conspiracy. No hammering him. Were we ****** off. Yes but most (and I believe Josh Kronfield said this many years later) praised Neil Back. Said if it were the other way around we would have done same.</p><p>I'm not dismissing any grievances. More putting it straight. I've been involved a long time. John Kelly's famous try that was disallowed in France before. And never have I heard as much whinging and conspiracy theories as I had after Saturday.</p><p>So again I believe Curls you have no real inside knowledge it seems if you think Neil Back is a hated figure here. He has been here even for functions.</p><p></p><p>Again the appointment process I accept is an issue. But totally seperate to the large amount of whinging and whinging from a minority I guess didn't follow Leinster pre 2009.</p><p></p><p>[USER=45598]@Le Frére Alpha[/USER] I go at pains to say minority everytime when saying Leinster because I have met a good few even after game who did say we were the better team and wished us well. Accepted errors on both sides but said we were on a different level intensity wise and in terms of possession/territory,</p><p></p><p>Again I am not defending Frank. We had issues in past when Rolland used to get derby the whole time. But like then I don't think it can be said oh Frank was difference in game. That is BS and he wasn't great for Munster either I might add. But never denied the process as a whole was issue.</p><p></p><p>As I said I don't know why Holly Davidson or someone like that could have been brought in.</p><p></p><p>And equally that is the point I think Leinster were comprehensively beaten in performance terms as their eyes are firmly on next week. Call it straight URC won't define a season. But for them next week defines not just a season but you'd argue a generation as I feel next year with Sexton gone there will be a bit of feet finding as 10 is a pivotal spot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="munstermuffin, post: 1129639, member: 39240"] True. Alot of Munster whinge about Irish selections been bias toward Leinster. 100% but christ I have never seen anyone go to lengths that curls for example and a few are going to. There is whinging and there is conspiracy theories. Christ Frank Murphy apologised was 1 of best ones yet. In 2002 I was involved with Munster. Not on the pitch but do you know what many Munster fans were like after that day? Joel Jutge did not get 1 insult. No conspiracy. No hammering him. Were we ****** off. Yes but most (and I believe Josh Kronfield said this many years later) praised Neil Back. Said if it were the other way around we would have done same. I'm not dismissing any grievances. More putting it straight. I've been involved a long time. John Kelly's famous try that was disallowed in France before. And never have I heard as much whinging and conspiracy theories as I had after Saturday. So again I believe Curls you have no real inside knowledge it seems if you think Neil Back is a hated figure here. He has been here even for functions. Again the appointment process I accept is an issue. But totally seperate to the large amount of whinging and whinging from a minority I guess didn't follow Leinster pre 2009. [USER=45598]@Le Frére Alpha[/USER] I go at pains to say minority everytime when saying Leinster because I have met a good few even after game who did say we were the better team and wished us well. Accepted errors on both sides but said we were on a different level intensity wise and in terms of possession/territory, Again I am not defending Frank. We had issues in past when Rolland used to get derby the whole time. But like then I don't think it can be said oh Frank was difference in game. That is BS and he wasn't great for Munster either I might add. But never denied the process as a whole was issue. As I said I don't know why Holly Davidson or someone like that could have been brought in. And equally that is the point I think Leinster were comprehensively beaten in performance terms as their eyes are firmly on next week. Call it straight URC won't define a season. But for them next week defines not just a season but you'd argue a generation as I feel next year with Sexton gone there will be a bit of feet finding as 10 is a pivotal spot. [/QUOTE]
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