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<blockquote data-quote="Curls" data-source="post: 1129613" data-attributes="member: 46674"><p>77 mins. Just prior to the drop goal. Munster ball. Healy rucks Archer off the ball. Joe McCarthy goes to pick as Leinster have now won the ruck and he can by law act as receiver and handle the ball. Munster hand plays it back on the Munster side. Regardless of if the player is on his feet or not its hands in the ruck and a very easy PK for a competent ref.</p><p>We'll agree to disagree on the aftermath but more than 1 person has told me the same facts.</p><p></p><p>As far as your assessment of IRFU pathways you kind of cement the point I made but I'm not sure if it's because you agree fully or not. You need to be establishment to get ahead and its the reason the IRFU is poorly regarded now in refereeing. A young 20 something in Ireland who takes up the whistle with no friends in positions will never be an elite referee no matter how talented they are. Some of the stories I've heard from young referees who've run the line in the AIL copping abuse from the supporters for well connected donkeys with a whistle would depress you. There were 2 high profile examples. 1)There was an ex Cork Con guy who was fast tracked to IPAS around 2015 in his first season having shown little or no potential. 3 young referees who showed massive potential over a couple of seasons were denied IPAS eventhough their assessments were better. They all packed it in within a year as they had careers and education and put the FU before the IR so to speak. A huge loss to the game in Ireland and as a whole. </p><p>2) The most infamous and ridiculous fast track in IRFU history where a referee effectively skipped IPAS because....reasons. Then essentially made a mockery of the lower AIL divisions before "retiring" when a better candidate came along.</p><p></p><p>All of these IRFU issues take you to this point. Referees elevated to top positions who are so well connected their impartiality becomes a talking point in interpros.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Curls, post: 1129613, member: 46674"] 77 mins. Just prior to the drop goal. Munster ball. Healy rucks Archer off the ball. Joe McCarthy goes to pick as Leinster have now won the ruck and he can by law act as receiver and handle the ball. Munster hand plays it back on the Munster side. Regardless of if the player is on his feet or not its hands in the ruck and a very easy PK for a competent ref. We'll agree to disagree on the aftermath but more than 1 person has told me the same facts. As far as your assessment of IRFU pathways you kind of cement the point I made but I'm not sure if it's because you agree fully or not. You need to be establishment to get ahead and its the reason the IRFU is poorly regarded now in refereeing. A young 20 something in Ireland who takes up the whistle with no friends in positions will never be an elite referee no matter how talented they are. Some of the stories I've heard from young referees who've run the line in the AIL copping abuse from the supporters for well connected donkeys with a whistle would depress you. There were 2 high profile examples. 1)There was an ex Cork Con guy who was fast tracked to IPAS around 2015 in his first season having shown little or no potential. 3 young referees who showed massive potential over a couple of seasons were denied IPAS eventhough their assessments were better. They all packed it in within a year as they had careers and education and put the FU before the IR so to speak. A huge loss to the game in Ireland and as a whole. 2) The most infamous and ridiculous fast track in IRFU history where a referee effectively skipped IPAS because....reasons. Then essentially made a mockery of the lower AIL divisions before "retiring" when a better candidate came along. All of these IRFU issues take you to this point. Referees elevated to top positions who are so well connected their impartiality becomes a talking point in interpros. [/QUOTE]
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