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<blockquote data-quote="munstermuffin" data-source="post: 1129611" data-attributes="member: 39240"><p>Well respectfully. Having been there and seeing it all. I'm sure they carried out all their duties correct and then wen off to the refs function as planned. Either that or Munster were not given all this "info" you have. And Leinster coaches kept them in dark.</p><p>I'm guessing you don't have much info on URC or IRFU. There is a master system that all provinces have access to that gets reports for citings, refs reports, stats, hell it will nearly give you what diets lads are on.</p><p>Leinster did not meet Frank for an apology as stated. That is fact.</p><p>No Critical Incident Report is gone in as you stated. Remember IRFU are a shareholder in URC and each union is left manage their own. Hence very rare you hear of a citing in interpros. Paul O'Connell probably being the most famous example.</p><p>So again the incident you are referring to was actually reviewed by our team this morning and was argued Coombes was on his feet and wasn't a penalty. Maybe bias. But this about Murphy was shown footage, admitted error and then apologised is blatant BS and lies. The D4 media would be on that like a hot potato if true and someone would have reported it if even a hint of truth. And if you do know those ref reviews you would know it was a team not just the ref.</p><p></p><p>Should there have been ramifications for the whole of team? Why single out just Frank as he didn't make alot of calls solely.</p><p></p><p>And do I disagree on end part. No I have worked within Munster Rugby and IRFU for near on 20 years. I have been lucky to help with Ireland A in the past so know how it operates. I know the refs structure is bad here. A player in squad yesterday has been promised he will ref in URC in next 5 years as he has a school teaching background and will follow a special pathway programme. Is it right? No. Is it fact that is happening. Yes. But I will add 2 things.</p><p>1 this nonsense of ref admitting he was wrong yesterday and spreading BS is ludicrous.</p><p></p><p>And I wouldn't paint all IRFU refs in that 1 sentence. Refs I know personally like Andy Brace and Joy Neville have had to make huge personal and professional sacrifices to get where they were. They definitely didn't get special pushes. And I'm just speaking for 2 I know. I'm sure more in Ulster, Connacht and Leinster would say same.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="munstermuffin, post: 1129611, member: 39240"] Well respectfully. Having been there and seeing it all. I'm sure they carried out all their duties correct and then wen off to the refs function as planned. Either that or Munster were not given all this "info" you have. And Leinster coaches kept them in dark. I'm guessing you don't have much info on URC or IRFU. There is a master system that all provinces have access to that gets reports for citings, refs reports, stats, hell it will nearly give you what diets lads are on. Leinster did not meet Frank for an apology as stated. That is fact. No Critical Incident Report is gone in as you stated. Remember IRFU are a shareholder in URC and each union is left manage their own. Hence very rare you hear of a citing in interpros. Paul O'Connell probably being the most famous example. So again the incident you are referring to was actually reviewed by our team this morning and was argued Coombes was on his feet and wasn't a penalty. Maybe bias. But this about Murphy was shown footage, admitted error and then apologised is blatant BS and lies. The D4 media would be on that like a hot potato if true and someone would have reported it if even a hint of truth. And if you do know those ref reviews you would know it was a team not just the ref. Should there have been ramifications for the whole of team? Why single out just Frank as he didn't make alot of calls solely. And do I disagree on end part. No I have worked within Munster Rugby and IRFU for near on 20 years. I have been lucky to help with Ireland A in the past so know how it operates. I know the refs structure is bad here. A player in squad yesterday has been promised he will ref in URC in next 5 years as he has a school teaching background and will follow a special pathway programme. Is it right? No. Is it fact that is happening. Yes. But I will add 2 things. 1 this nonsense of ref admitting he was wrong yesterday and spreading BS is ludicrous. And I wouldn't paint all IRFU refs in that 1 sentence. Refs I know personally like Andy Brace and Joy Neville have had to make huge personal and professional sacrifices to get where they were. They definitely didn't get special pushes. And I'm just speaking for 2 I know. I'm sure more in Ulster, Connacht and Leinster would say same. [/QUOTE]
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