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<blockquote data-quote="Big Ewis" data-source="post: 685162" data-attributes="member: 57076"><p>well I mean there isn't really much discussion to be had here (I know I've been saying this often lately !! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> ). I mean bottom line yes the Top 14 is humongous but we were doing just fine just some years ago playing with 14 teams domestically AND then very well capable of beating the All-Blacks, Aussies, or Boks and being a top nation generally, simultaneously. Five teams would be just ridiculous, not in a sarcastic sense, in a literal sense: ridiculous. Imagine having all the Southwest alone down to just 5, let alone the Clermont centre region, Bourgoin/Lyon/Grenoble/Oyonnax Alpes region, southeast Var...5 teams, ridiculous from a historical, cultural standpoint.</p><p></p><p>So what do we need ? a healthy prolific Top 14 AND a competitive bleus team again (as it's meant to be, as it's always been since about the 50's when it started). How do we achieve that ? Fine-tuning and a competent contingent to do it. Will it happen soon ? Maybe, but probably, no.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>EDIT</strong></p><p>I should add NZ definitely have an ideal system for when it comes to national duties. But it's silly and, again, ridiculous or aberrant to talk about one region of the world in terms that apply to another. Just as we're not asking NZ to have stronger regional identity or more history to clubs and pop 14 teams out, so is it incumbent upon us to understand France are just a different ground, with different rules, a different setting...it's unthinkable the country would just own the entire lower half of France and its clubs and our league would basically merely serve as a pool to pick players for the greater purpose, making the national team as strong as possible.</p><p>It's good for NZ they have what they have, but clubs as it's been discussed before on some thread have an utmost importance here. So we'll just have to work with that and try to get back to a finer state of equilibrium betw clubs and country.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big Ewis, post: 685162, member: 57076"] well I mean there isn't really much discussion to be had here (I know I've been saying this often lately !! :p ). I mean bottom line yes the Top 14 is humongous but we were doing just fine just some years ago playing with 14 teams domestically AND then very well capable of beating the All-Blacks, Aussies, or Boks and being a top nation generally, simultaneously. Five teams would be just ridiculous, not in a sarcastic sense, in a literal sense: ridiculous. Imagine having all the Southwest alone down to just 5, let alone the Clermont centre region, Bourgoin/Lyon/Grenoble/Oyonnax Alpes region, southeast Var...5 teams, ridiculous from a historical, cultural standpoint. So what do we need ? a healthy prolific Top 14 AND a competitive bleus team again (as it's meant to be, as it's always been since about the 50's when it started). How do we achieve that ? Fine-tuning and a competent contingent to do it. Will it happen soon ? Maybe, but probably, no. [B]EDIT[/B] I should add NZ definitely have an ideal system for when it comes to national duties. But it's silly and, again, ridiculous or aberrant to talk about one region of the world in terms that apply to another. Just as we're not asking NZ to have stronger regional identity or more history to clubs and pop 14 teams out, so is it incumbent upon us to understand France are just a different ground, with different rules, a different setting...it's unthinkable the country would just own the entire lower half of France and its clubs and our league would basically merely serve as a pool to pick players for the greater purpose, making the national team as strong as possible. It's good for NZ they have what they have, but clubs as it's been discussed before on some thread have an utmost importance here. So we'll just have to work with that and try to get back to a finer state of equilibrium betw clubs and country. [/QUOTE]
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