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<blockquote data-quote="Icemn" data-source="post: 868753" data-attributes="member: 50355"><p>The main reason for the decline in SA rugby which most people seem to miss is Heineke(n) Meyer's tenure from 2012- 2015</p><p></p><p>In his tenure (regardless of results) he played a 1975 gameplan that prevented the boks form making any headway while the rest of the world moved on (this went on for +-3 years)</p><p></p><p>Him (HM) also only just focused on his current older (biltong) players because they knew his 1975 gameplan (i wonder why...) and thus he neglected bringing in new younger talent to mix in with the 'biltong' and build on an aging team...</p><p></p><p>HM then gets the boot becasue 1975 does not work in 2015, most of the biltong also departs and in steps poor Toetie (god that sounds wet) - just for the record, regardless of who stepped in they were setup for failure... not even Alex Ferguson or Jesus could have saved this bok team - that is why no-one really wanted this job.... </p><p></p><p>Then there are issues like all the provinces play a different style of rugby, some play expansive, some play 'stampkar' and some kick and chase. When these mix of players get called into the bok team with its 'identity crisis' - some of the players from the expansive provincial teams are now being asked to play 'stampkar' those who play 'stampkar' are now asked to run etc. </p><p></p><p>That for me are the main reasons the boks are in decline and this is how I can see them bounce back </p><p></p><p>There is nothing we can do about the damage caused by HM and co, what they can do is decide on a style of rugby that is true to SA - get an identity </p><p></p><p>Are we going to stampkar - which is fine but then get players who stampkar - don't gooi poor Elton in there and expect him to shine </p><p></p><p>Also get the coaching staff correct for 'stampkar' - get a stampkar coach </p><p></p><p>Also align all the provinces to adopt 'stampkar' as their preferred style - just makes it easier at national level if everyone is on the same parr</p><p></p><p>on the quota comment.... </p><p></p><p>As a non-white I've never been in favor of this 'quota-system' as I feel that you need to be selected based on Merritt regardless of colour</p><p></p><p>However, since non-whites have been at a disadvantage ('apparently') of not being selected previously they are being given an advantage of being selected in the national squad?? why, its not apartheid anymore so select based on merrit</p><p></p><p>my question is, when is this 'advantage' over? come on government its been +-24 years now so when is this **** over? who decides when 'non-whites' and 'whites' are on parr, do we vote? do other countries vote as they will be neutral... eish...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Icemn, post: 868753, member: 50355"] The main reason for the decline in SA rugby which most people seem to miss is Heineke(n) Meyer's tenure from 2012- 2015 In his tenure (regardless of results) he played a 1975 gameplan that prevented the boks form making any headway while the rest of the world moved on (this went on for +-3 years) Him (HM) also only just focused on his current older (biltong) players because they knew his 1975 gameplan (i wonder why...) and thus he neglected bringing in new younger talent to mix in with the 'biltong' and build on an aging team... HM then gets the boot becasue 1975 does not work in 2015, most of the biltong also departs and in steps poor Toetie (god that sounds wet) - just for the record, regardless of who stepped in they were setup for failure... not even Alex Ferguson or Jesus could have saved this bok team - that is why no-one really wanted this job.... Then there are issues like all the provinces play a different style of rugby, some play expansive, some play 'stampkar' and some kick and chase. When these mix of players get called into the bok team with its 'identity crisis' - some of the players from the expansive provincial teams are now being asked to play 'stampkar' those who play 'stampkar' are now asked to run etc. That for me are the main reasons the boks are in decline and this is how I can see them bounce back There is nothing we can do about the damage caused by HM and co, what they can do is decide on a style of rugby that is true to SA - get an identity Are we going to stampkar - which is fine but then get players who stampkar - don't gooi poor Elton in there and expect him to shine Also get the coaching staff correct for 'stampkar' - get a stampkar coach Also align all the provinces to adopt 'stampkar' as their preferred style - just makes it easier at national level if everyone is on the same parr on the quota comment.... As a non-white I've never been in favor of this 'quota-system' as I feel that you need to be selected based on Merritt regardless of colour However, since non-whites have been at a disadvantage ('apparently') of not being selected previously they are being given an advantage of being selected in the national squad?? why, its not apartheid anymore so select based on merrit my question is, when is this 'advantage' over? come on government its been +-24 years now so when is this **** over? who decides when 'non-whites' and 'whites' are on parr, do we vote? do other countries vote as they will be neutral... eish... [/QUOTE]
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