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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce_ma gooshvili" data-source="post: 868442" data-attributes="member: 74121"><p>This topic resurfaced in various threads in June and is likely to reappear again during the Rugby Championship. Rather than reply in those threads to each instance I thought I'd simply update my post from last year and personally just focus on the rugby in these other threads. As ever, no offence is intended and I can sympathise why this is a sensitive topic. </p><p></p><p>I don't think the Lions met this mythical "quota" once this season. Instead of 7 out of 23 I counted 4 non-whites for them in the final. So I'd argue the same applies in 2017 as last year in my first post, that:</p><p></p><p>- quotas are a myth peddled by a media looking for a readership. They are a deliberate misinterpretation of the policy because it is standard media practice to foster grievance in order to enhance readership numbers. </p><p>- players are selected on merit and there are easily 7 non-white South African players of sufficient quality to put on the Boks jersey. </p><p>- the SARU are being strongly encouraged to foster growth of the game outside the traditional strongholds and by doing so, naturally come closer to the "targets" outlined. </p><p>- that if the SARU was seen to be failing to become more inclusive then the government would not support bids to host the RWC by withholding tax payer funds. </p><p>- that there are no sanctions for a team if they have less than 7 non-white players in their squad. </p><p>- that South African rugby will benefit in the medium to long term by extending its reach to other communities in terms of playerbase and fanbase. </p><p>- that the SARU was given around 20 years to improve this situation themselves post-apartheid but, for whatever reasons, utterly failed to make progress in this area. </p><p>- that it is reasonable for a government in such a situation after two decades to then take a more hands on approach and issue targets to a union. </p><p>- that just because a government is completely rotten, it doesn't mean that everything done by that government is wrong. </p><p></p><p>To refresh quota/target watchers of any persuasion my understanding is that despite skin pigmentation de Allende is classified as white and Bosch is classified as non-white. </p><p></p><p>Will each 23 for South Africa contain 7 or more non-white players in the Rugby Championship? If you can't say for certain, yes, then you cannot believe quotas are being implemented.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce_ma gooshvili, post: 868442, member: 74121"] This topic resurfaced in various threads in June and is likely to reappear again during the Rugby Championship. Rather than reply in those threads to each instance I thought I'd simply update my post from last year and personally just focus on the rugby in these other threads. As ever, no offence is intended and I can sympathise why this is a sensitive topic. I don't think the Lions met this mythical "quota" once this season. Instead of 7 out of 23 I counted 4 non-whites for them in the final. So I'd argue the same applies in 2017 as last year in my first post, that: - quotas are a myth peddled by a media looking for a readership. They are a deliberate misinterpretation of the policy because it is standard media practice to foster grievance in order to enhance readership numbers. - players are selected on merit and there are easily 7 non-white South African players of sufficient quality to put on the Boks jersey. - the SARU are being strongly encouraged to foster growth of the game outside the traditional strongholds and by doing so, naturally come closer to the "targets" outlined. - that if the SARU was seen to be failing to become more inclusive then the government would not support bids to host the RWC by withholding tax payer funds. - that there are no sanctions for a team if they have less than 7 non-white players in their squad. - that South African rugby will benefit in the medium to long term by extending its reach to other communities in terms of playerbase and fanbase. - that the SARU was given around 20 years to improve this situation themselves post-apartheid but, for whatever reasons, utterly failed to make progress in this area. - that it is reasonable for a government in such a situation after two decades to then take a more hands on approach and issue targets to a union. - that just because a government is completely rotten, it doesn't mean that everything done by that government is wrong. To refresh quota/target watchers of any persuasion my understanding is that despite skin pigmentation de Allende is classified as white and Bosch is classified as non-white. Will each 23 for South Africa contain 7 or more non-white players in the Rugby Championship? If you can't say for certain, yes, then you cannot believe quotas are being implemented. [/QUOTE]
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