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<blockquote data-quote="Brigantine" data-source="post: 819740" data-attributes="member: 73940"><p>This whole political interference topic only seems to be getting louder since TRC round 6.</p><p></p><p>But here's a different idea:</p><p></p><p>The Maori All Blacks certainly seem to have a niche. It will be interesting to see how much fanfare the USA - Maori All Blacks game can generate, it seems like a good match-up for marketing.</p><p>The Americas Rugby Championship includes an 'A' side from Argentina.</p><p>The Barbarians are a regular feature in AI's</p><p></p><p>Could there be value (marketing, political, whatever) in a Maori All Blacks equivalent in South Africa? (Or is there something like this already?)</p><p></p><p>- Would it bridge the gap between Namibia/Kenya/Zimbabwe and South Africa in the Africa Cup? If it was a permanent team in that competition, would it help grow the rugby following further into Africa?</p><p>- Could it be a plausible SH rival for Samoa/Tonga/Maori All Blacks or the winner of the Americas Rugby Championship?</p><p>- Is it something that would get a lot of attention in SA and generate new stars and inspiration/appeal across a wider section of SA?</p><p></p><p>I can see pitfalls too </p><p>- It might be perceived in a completely different way in SA to NZ. I imagine it would have to definitely be seen as a springboard, not a divergent path. (less of an issue for an age-grade team?)</p><p>- Whatever criteria are used could become contentious. It's possibly a blessing with the status quo that disagreements over which players count in what category <strong><em>don't</em></strong> need to be explicitly resolved.</p><p></p><p></p><p>People who actually know stuff about South Africa: </p><p></p><p>Am I being crazy and this would never fly? (Or is there already a team and I've never heard about it)</p><p>Would you personally have any problems with this? (i.e. does this even avoid the problems with quotas in the first place?)</p><p>Do you think it would have a good/bad effect on the Springboks?</p><p>Can you imagine an opponent for them where you wouldn't want to miss the game? (would they sell any tickets / generate any TV revenue?)</p><p>Are there players who would want to sign up to this team?</p><p>Could they find enough funding/sponsorship?</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">P.S.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">In NZ, the Maori All Blacks were formed way back in 1910. It seems having 1 distant ancestor who belonged to a tribe is sufficient to make you eligible. "All contracted players are able to nominate themselves as eligible for the Maori All Blacks and, in the event a player is considered for selection, the team’s kaumatua (cultural advisor) will trace the player’s whakapapa (genealogy) to confirm his heritage and eligibility". But the SA situation isn't really similar to NZ - Maori are a minority, and all tribes share one language, albeit with differences.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brigantine, post: 819740, member: 73940"] This whole political interference topic only seems to be getting louder since TRC round 6. But here's a different idea: The Maori All Blacks certainly seem to have a niche. It will be interesting to see how much fanfare the USA - Maori All Blacks game can generate, it seems like a good match-up for marketing. The Americas Rugby Championship includes an 'A' side from Argentina. The Barbarians are a regular feature in AI's Could there be value (marketing, political, whatever) in a Maori All Blacks equivalent in South Africa? (Or is there something like this already?) - Would it bridge the gap between Namibia/Kenya/Zimbabwe and South Africa in the Africa Cup? If it was a permanent team in that competition, would it help grow the rugby following further into Africa? - Could it be a plausible SH rival for Samoa/Tonga/Maori All Blacks or the winner of the Americas Rugby Championship? - Is it something that would get a lot of attention in SA and generate new stars and inspiration/appeal across a wider section of SA? I can see pitfalls too - It might be perceived in a completely different way in SA to NZ. I imagine it would have to definitely be seen as a springboard, not a divergent path. (less of an issue for an age-grade team?) - Whatever criteria are used could become contentious. It's possibly a blessing with the status quo that disagreements over which players count in what category [B][I]don't[/I][/B] need to be explicitly resolved. People who actually know stuff about South Africa: Am I being crazy and this would never fly? (Or is there already a team and I've never heard about it) Would you personally have any problems with this? (i.e. does this even avoid the problems with quotas in the first place?) Do you think it would have a good/bad effect on the Springboks? Can you imagine an opponent for them where you wouldn't want to miss the game? (would they sell any tickets / generate any TV revenue?) Are there players who would want to sign up to this team? Could they find enough funding/sponsorship? [SIZE=1]P.S. In NZ, the Maori All Blacks were formed way back in 1910. It seems having 1 distant ancestor who belonged to a tribe is sufficient to make you eligible. "All contracted players are able to nominate themselves as eligible for the Maori All Blacks and, in the event a player is considered for selection, the team’s kaumatua (cultural advisor) will trace the player’s whakapapa (genealogy) to confirm his heritage and eligibility". But the SA situation isn't really similar to NZ - Maori are a minority, and all tribes share one language, albeit with differences.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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