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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 738191" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>Not true. </p><p></p><p>They werepenalised <strong>for taking part in the game before they retreated 10m from the mark</strong>, or to a point where they passed a team-mate who had been 10m from the mark where the tap kick was taken. The yellow card was for intentional offending, Law 10.2 (a) (see later in this post)</p><p></p><p>[TEXTAREA]<strong>LAW 21.7 WHAT THE OPPOSING TEAM MUST DO AT A PENALTY KICK</strong></p><p></p><p>(a) Must run from the mark. The opposing team must immediately <strong>run towards their own goal line until they are at least 10 metres away from the mark for the penalty kick</strong>, or until they have reached their goal line if that is nearer the mark.</p><p></p><p>(b) Must keep running. Even if the penalty kick is taken and the kicker's team is playing the ball, opposing players <strong>must keep running until they have retired the necessary distance. They must not take part in the game until they have done so.</strong></p><p></p><p>(c) Kick taken quickly. <strong>If the penalty kick is taken so quickly that opponents have no opportunity to retire, they will not be penalised for this. However, they must continue to retire as described in 21.7(b) above or until a team-mate who was 10 metres from the mark has run in front of them, before they take part in the game.</strong>[/TEXTAREA]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also not true. As soon as they were onside (as explained above) they would have been free to take part again.</p><p></p><p>However, when Aaron Smith was tackled by Kepu (who was then binned) there was a very good case for a penalty try to be awarded. When Smith took the tap kick, the offside line was the Wallaby goal-line. EVERY Wallaby player, within defending distance was offside...</p><p></p><p><img src="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98915197/RugbyRefs/NZvAUS-PT2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'">As Smith takes the tap</span></p><p></p><p><img src="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98915197/RugbyRefs/NZvAUS-PT1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'">As he is tackled</span></p><p></p><p>When Aaron Smith took the tap kick, the offside line was the Wallaby goal-line. EVERY Wallaby player, within defending distance was offside. They were not allowed to touch Smith until he reached the goal-line. The Law says they had to retire immediately (see Law 21 above) and not one of them even attempted to do that. </p><p></p><p>Barnes thought this was a cynical enough offence to bin Kepu, so he has to be binning him for intentional offending...</p><p></p><p>[LAWS]10.2 UNFAIR PLAY</p><p>(a) Intentionally Offending. A player must not intentionally infringe any Law of the Game, or play unfairly. The player who intentionally offends must be either admonished, or cautioned that a send off will result if the offence or a similar offence is committed, or sent off.</p><p>Sanction: Penalty kick</p><p></p><p>A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise</p><p>have been scored.[/LAWS]</p><p></p><p>...so I have to wonder why he didn't go upstairs and have the TMO check for a possible penalty try. If they left Smith alone as the Law requires, he most certainly would have scored.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 738191, member: 20605"] Not true. They werepenalised [B]for taking part in the game before they retreated 10m from the mark[/B], or to a point where they passed a team-mate who had been 10m from the mark where the tap kick was taken. The yellow card was for intentional offending, Law 10.2 (a) (see later in this post) [TEXTAREA][B]LAW 21.7 WHAT THE OPPOSING TEAM MUST DO AT A PENALTY KICK[/B] (a) Must run from the mark. The opposing team must immediately [B]run towards their own goal line until they are at least 10 metres away from the mark for the penalty kick[/B], or until they have reached their goal line if that is nearer the mark. (b) Must keep running. Even if the penalty kick is taken and the kicker’s team is playing the ball, opposing players [B]must keep running until they have retired the necessary distance. They must not take part in the game until they have done so.[/B] (c) Kick taken quickly. [B]If the penalty kick is taken so quickly that opponents have no opportunity to retire, they will not be penalised for this. However, they must continue to retire as described in 21.7(b) above or until a team-mate who was 10 metres from the mark has run in front of them, before they take part in the game.[/B][/TEXTAREA] Also not true. As soon as they were onside (as explained above) they would have been free to take part again. However, when Aaron Smith was tackled by Kepu (who was then binned) there was a very good case for a penalty try to be awarded. When Smith took the tap kick, the offside line was the Wallaby goal-line. EVERY Wallaby player, within defending distance was offside... [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98915197/RugbyRefs/NZvAUS-PT2.jpg[/IMG] [FONT=Arial Narrow]As Smith takes the tap[/FONT] [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/98915197/RugbyRefs/NZvAUS-PT1.jpg[/IMG] [FONT=Arial Narrow]As he is tackled[/FONT] When Aaron Smith took the tap kick, the offside line was the Wallaby goal-line. EVERY Wallaby player, within defending distance was offside. They were not allowed to touch Smith until he reached the goal-line. The Law says they had to retire immediately (see Law 21 above) and not one of them even attempted to do that. Barnes thought this was a cynical enough offence to bin Kepu, so he has to be binning him for intentional offending... [LAWS]10.2 UNFAIR PLAY (a) Intentionally Offending. A player must not intentionally infringe any Law of the Game, or play unfairly. The player who intentionally offends must be either admonished, or cautioned that a send off will result if the offence or a similar offence is committed, or sent off. Sanction: Penalty kick A penalty try must be awarded if the offence prevents a try that would probably otherwise have been scored.[/LAWS] ...so I have to wonder why he didn't go upstairs and have the TMO check for a possible penalty try. If they left Smith alone as the Law requires, he most certainly would have scored. [/QUOTE]
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