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<blockquote data-quote="Welsh Exile" data-source="post: 1035986" data-attributes="member: 82670"><p>But I'm not talking about him starting.</p><p></p><p>This whole discussion started with me posing a back 5 with no Tipuric coz I wanted Beirne in the 2nd row and made the admission that if you wanted to do that ideally, imo, you'd want 2 destructive flankers like Underhill and Watson or Curry starting. My whole point is that in this scenario, imo, you need a different bench option if plan A isn't working. If plan A isn't working and we're getting beaten up a bit and our back row say isn't getting much play on the ball it's good to have a different type of player on the bench who has different skill set. That's it.</p><p></p><p>A fair point was made about having players who've had success against the Bok pack and I said Tipuric does. And the only reason I've made the tackling stats point is to show he gets through work (he's had no other choice playing under Gats and the emphasis on defence and nullifying opposition) so he's clearly not just a player who puts through grubbers or whatever. It's only under Pivac where he starting to play in a system that plays to his strengths (though this reverted back a bit this 6N)</p><p></p><p>I honestly didn't want to go down this hole again. As has been said by me and others, no one, literally no one expects Tipuric to start any of these tests (unless we lose the first 2) so it's not about that. I just wanted to get the Beirne in the 2nd row point out there coz it's like that's not even an option at the moment which I disagree with and if anything if you were to do that I wouldn't want Tips in the starting 15.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Welsh Exile, post: 1035986, member: 82670"] But I’m not talking about him starting. This whole discussion started with me posing a back 5 with no Tipuric coz I wanted Beirne in the 2nd row and made the admission that if you wanted to do that ideally, imo, you’d want 2 destructive flankers like Underhill and Watson or Curry starting. My whole point is that in this scenario, imo, you need a different bench option if plan A isn’t working. If plan A isn’t working and we’re getting beaten up a bit and our back row say isn’t getting much play on the ball it’s good to have a different type of player on the bench who has different skill set. That’s it. A fair point was made about having players who’ve had success against the Bok pack and I said Tipuric does. And the only reason I’ve made the tackling stats point is to show he gets through work (he’s had no other choice playing under Gats and the emphasis on defence and nullifying opposition) so he’s clearly not just a player who puts through grubbers or whatever. It’s only under Pivac where he starting to play in a system that plays to his strengths (though this reverted back a bit this 6N) I honestly didn’t want to go down this hole again. As has been said by me and others, no one, literally no one expects Tipuric to start any of these tests (unless we lose the first 2) so it’s not about that. I just wanted to get the Beirne in the 2nd row point out there coz it’s like that’s not even an option at the moment which I disagree with and if anything if you were to do that I wouldn’t want Tips in the starting 15. [/QUOTE]
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