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<blockquote data-quote="Bada-Bing!" data-source="post: 1222436" data-attributes="member: 70552"><p>Conflicting evidence of what? That global temperatures are increasing past 1.5degrees C.</p><p></p><p>That polar ice caps are melting?</p><p>That we are getting more extreme weather events?</p><p>That we are getting more droughts?</p><p>That the Great Barrier Reef is bleaching?</p><p></p><p>He's a hypocrite.</p><p></p><p>Yes, hypocrisy. Doesn't mean we shouldn't do something about it.</p><p></p><p>How? Does that justify Trump withdrawing from it?</p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to get to net zero and you're using these individual instances to deflect.</p><p></p><p>And India and China are part of the problem and solution. Look at China really ramping up solar panel, battery technology. Hell even Trump knows in his twisted way hence why he's after Ukraine's REMs.</p><p></p><p>Simple things can be done now whilst not reducing living standards.</p><p></p><p>I am not saying switching all to EVs overnight. The UK just has too many vehicles on the roads. Congestion and producing fumes is not making our living standards any better.</p><p></p><p>How about you know parents not continually dropping and picking up their kids from school in gas guzzling SUVs. What is that teaching the next generation?</p><p></p><p>Designing our urban environments to priorities people instead of cars. </p><p></p><p>It is and that is why there needs a discussion.</p><p>But debating how exactly man is contributing is again deflection. We are. Just those who choose to are again trying to deflect and slow for their own greed. Oh you know Oil, Gas companies. Those with self interest in delaying it as long as possible.</p><p></p><p>Not going to end, but severe, irreversible consequences.</p><p></p><p>And of course you are entitled to as an individual.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bada-Bing!, post: 1222436, member: 70552"] Conflicting evidence of what? That global temperatures are increasing past 1.5degrees C. That polar ice caps are melting? That we are getting more extreme weather events? That we are getting more droughts? That the Great Barrier Reef is bleaching? He's a hypocrite. Yes, hypocrisy. Doesn't mean we shouldn't do something about it. How? Does that justify Trump withdrawing from it? That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to get to net zero and you're using these individual instances to deflect. And India and China are part of the problem and solution. Look at China really ramping up solar panel, battery technology. Hell even Trump knows in his twisted way hence why he's after Ukraine's REMs. Simple things can be done now whilst not reducing living standards. I am not saying switching all to EVs overnight. The UK just has too many vehicles on the roads. Congestion and producing fumes is not making our living standards any better. How about you know parents not continually dropping and picking up their kids from school in gas guzzling SUVs. What is that teaching the next generation? Designing our urban environments to priorities people instead of cars. It is and that is why there needs a discussion. But debating how exactly man is contributing is again deflection. We are. Just those who choose to are again trying to deflect and slow for their own greed. Oh you know Oil, Gas companies. Those with self interest in delaying it as long as possible. Not going to end, but severe, irreversible consequences. And of course you are entitled to as an individual. [/QUOTE]
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