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<blockquote data-quote="dullonien" data-source="post: 503830" data-attributes="member: 13739"><p>You're probably right. But it hasn't just been the Munster performance. Every performance bar the <div style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #464646"><span style="font-family: 'verdana'">Aironi game has been excellent under Steve Tandy. The talent has always been there, but the team ethos hasn't. Still, you're final line is probably correct.</span></span></div><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You talk a lot of sense here. However there is depth in the squad, as exemplified by the performances of the team when the players were away at the WC at the beginning of the season. It was the young Ospreys team that Smashed the Leinster equivalent on the opening day of the season. The likes of James King, Jo Rees, James Goode and Morgan Allen are good young players in the pack. They do need to replace some of the outgoing players though.</p><p></p><p>Fussell's form has been up and down this season. He's gone from looking like a very capable fullback, to being average at best, and now back to potentially a good fullback again. His attacking lines against Munster were very good, but his positioning is still dodgy. Agree about Tom Isaac's, he's not a centre. I feel you're being harsh on Ross Jones, who did well in one of his first Pro12 starts. You're also waay too critical of Eli Walker. He's shown glimpses of what he can do, and I think he'll be the Ospreys starting wing next season and prove you wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>King and Goode are able replacements and progressing well. While Ryan and Jon Thomas are both options as you said.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Ospreys have always done well in the Rabo12 during international periods, despite always losing a full team or more. The youngsters there are of a high calibre. Anyway, this is about HC potential, not Pro12.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's been a few times when Ospreys have overwhelmed top English or French sides up front. Leicester a couple of seasons ago comes to mind. There have also been times when the pack has capitulated, such as against Munster in the q/f of the HC a few years ago. However I think overall the pack is stronger now than it has been for a while. Hollah was a good player, but had a tenancy to go missing in the big matches, I think Tipuric is already a much better player. The balance of the pack as a whole is better with Ian Evans back to enforce the second-row. This pack has proven its worth, and it will be competitive at the least against most out there, even the big English or French packs. There really isn't a pack in Europe I fear as an O's supporter!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hopefully we'll see a little recruitment in a few positions, as you've mentioned above. But the academy has supplied a steady stream of quality players for a while now if not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A little hostile, but ultimately until the Scarlets pack is bolstered at prop and lock, they will struggle against the bigger packs out there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dullonien, post: 503830, member: 13739"] You're probably right. But it hasn't just been the Munster performance. Every performance bar the [LEFT][COLOR=#464646][FONT=verdana]Aironi game has been excellent under Steve Tandy. The talent has always been there, but the team ethos hasn't. Still, you're final line is probably correct.[/FONT][/COLOR][/LEFT] You talk a lot of sense here. However there is depth in the squad, as exemplified by the performances of the team when the players were away at the WC at the beginning of the season. It was the young Ospreys team that Smashed the Leinster equivalent on the opening day of the season. The likes of James King, Jo Rees, James Goode and Morgan Allen are good young players in the pack. They do need to replace some of the outgoing players though. Fussell's form has been up and down this season. He's gone from looking like a very capable fullback, to being average at best, and now back to potentially a good fullback again. His attacking lines against Munster were very good, but his positioning is still dodgy. Agree about Tom Isaac's, he's not a centre. I feel you're being harsh on Ross Jones, who did well in one of his first Pro12 starts. You're also waay too critical of Eli Walker. He's shown glimpses of what he can do, and I think he'll be the Ospreys starting wing next season and prove you wrong. King and Goode are able replacements and progressing well. While Ryan and Jon Thomas are both options as you said. The Ospreys have always done well in the Rabo12 during international periods, despite always losing a full team or more. The youngsters there are of a high calibre. Anyway, this is about HC potential, not Pro12. There's been a few times when Ospreys have overwhelmed top English or French sides up front. Leicester a couple of seasons ago comes to mind. There have also been times when the pack has capitulated, such as against Munster in the q/f of the HC a few years ago. However I think overall the pack is stronger now than it has been for a while. Hollah was a good player, but had a tenancy to go missing in the big matches, I think Tipuric is already a much better player. The balance of the pack as a whole is better with Ian Evans back to enforce the second-row. This pack has proven its worth, and it will be competitive at the least against most out there, even the big English or French packs. There really isn't a pack in Europe I fear as an O's supporter! Hopefully we'll see a little recruitment in a few positions, as you've mentioned above. But the academy has supplied a steady stream of quality players for a while now if not. A little hostile, but ultimately until the Scarlets pack is bolstered at prop and lock, they will struggle against the bigger packs out there. [/QUOTE]
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