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Steve Tew getting the excuses in
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<blockquote data-quote="Shaggy" data-source="post: 452569" data-attributes="member: 43400"><p>Well, he hasn't up until now has he ... and now that he has, you are criticising him for it</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? ... my bad then - I subscribe to the only stupid question is the one that you don't ask when you need something clarified </p><p></p><p></p><p>... maybe you could ... I don't know, consider the possibility that you might have phrased what you said a little differently so it was easier to understand, or, maybe, consider the possibility that maybe not everybody has been on here for seven years?</p><p></p><p></p><p>... not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but I don't get the Alistair Campbell reference</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct, no one has a god given right to expect to turn a profit, but conversely, no one has a god given right to expect commercial terms to remain the same from here to eternity either,if the terms aren't favourably for both parties.</p><p></p><p></p><p>... I don't really care what it sounds like to be honest - it's a tactic for a financial negotiation, providing the end result is that all of the unions that make a loss get a better deal. I can't disagree with his tactics when Tew and others have been trying to resolve this by negotiation for eight years now.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes he's timed it deliberately for now to get maximum exposure for this issue, but really, it's not an us verses them attitude, or anything like what happened to the Irish 800 years ago or anything historic - it's a financial negotiation, and it's got more to do with the here and now, and the very near future, than anything else</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, that's certainly part of his job, and another part is to represent New Zealand on the International Rugby Board, and part of their job is to grow the game etc. Though these duties conflict some times, I don't see that one necessarily has to come at the expense of the other ... some of his suggestions on sponsorship, wouldn't have a great impact on the profit margin of Rugby World cup ltd</p><p></p><p></p><p>... The only thing it has to do with sport, is that you need this money to pay the players</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess that's the difference between New Zealand and England, where the NZRU own the clubs, (they still need money to pay the players regardless of whether they are All Blacks or not)</p><p></p><p></p><p>...Don't the players from all the major test playing nations get paid to play?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks ... it's really not worth getting worked up about anything on here</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shaggy, post: 452569, member: 43400"] Well, he hasn't up until now has he ... and now that he has, you are criticising him for it Really? ... my bad then - I subscribe to the only stupid question is the one that you don't ask when you need something clarified ... maybe you could ... I don't know, consider the possibility that you might have phrased what you said a little differently so it was easier to understand, or, maybe, consider the possibility that maybe not everybody has been on here for seven years? ... not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but I don't get the Alistair Campbell reference Correct, no one has a god given right to expect to turn a profit, but conversely, no one has a god given right to expect commercial terms to remain the same from here to eternity either,if the terms aren't favourably for both parties. ... I don't really care what it sounds like to be honest - it's a tactic for a financial negotiation, providing the end result is that all of the unions that make a loss get a better deal. I can't disagree with his tactics when Tew and others have been trying to resolve this by negotiation for eight years now. Yes he's timed it deliberately for now to get maximum exposure for this issue, but really, it's not an us verses them attitude, or anything like what happened to the Irish 800 years ago or anything historic - it's a financial negotiation, and it's got more to do with the here and now, and the very near future, than anything else Yes, that's certainly part of his job, and another part is to represent New Zealand on the International Rugby Board, and part of their job is to grow the game etc. Though these duties conflict some times, I don't see that one necessarily has to come at the expense of the other ... some of his suggestions on sponsorship, wouldn't have a great impact on the profit margin of Rugby World cup ltd ... The only thing it has to do with sport, is that you need this money to pay the players I guess that's the difference between New Zealand and England, where the NZRU own the clubs, (they still need money to pay the players regardless of whether they are All Blacks or not) ...Don't the players from all the major test playing nations get paid to play? Thanks ... it's really not worth getting worked up about anything on here [/QUOTE]
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