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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 807787" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>And it not the case with Rugby Union either, which is why it works</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Dutch Soccer is a small fish in a big tank. That's why it might not work for them. There is an element of NZ being a Big Fish in the tank as regards playing standards and skills, the odd thing with Rugby Union is that the best <strong>paying</strong> Rugby competitions are of a lower standard. The additional element that keeps players in NZ is the prospect of playing for the best national team in the world. Players are not up for selection unless they play in this country, and long may that continue to be the NZRU Policy. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's wrong. The gap between SR player wages and Top 14 player wages is already huge. Players like SBW and Dan Carter can earn in one season what they might earn in three or four seasons in NZ. </p><p></p><p>You do that a Salary Cap is not a cap in what individual players get paid, its a cap on the overall spend that Clubs are allowed to pay wages?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>NPC does exactly this. Super Rugby players in NPC get their SR salaries to play but non-SR players (who are usually amateurs; they have jobs in real life outside of the roughly 16 weeks they are training and playing NPC) are on a retainer. I think it was around NZ$65,000 last year.</p><p></p><p>NRL has a minimum wage as well, AUD$80,000. </p><p></p><p><em>"The NRL is one of the few major leagues to implement a salary cap in a sport that has competing leagues in other countries where there is either no salary cap or a much higher cap per club. As a result, there has developed a tradition of players from Australia moving to Europe where salaries for the elite, and even for average players, were considerably higher. The NRL chooses to continue with the cap, believing that any reduction in quality of the sporting product due to the loss of these players is less than allowing richer clubs to dominate" </em></p><p><em></em></p><p>This is pretty much the same reasoning for the NZRU selecting only players playing in NZ. The departure/retirement of a few top players with a total of over 600 test caps between them (Smith, Nonu, Slade, Mealamu, Carter and McCaw) would have made an irrecoverable dent in the national sides of almost any other country, but it hardly made any difference to us. The reason for that is the NZRU policy. Without it, the majority of their likely replacements would be playing in Europe, and if that happened the standard of our local competitions would fall such that we could no longer develop the talent was well as we currently do. If the policy was changed to allow All Blacks to be selected from players playing in Europe and Japan, it would be an unmitigated disaster for at ALL levels of rugby in New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 807787, member: 20605"] And it not the case with Rugby Union either, which is why it works Dutch Soccer is a small fish in a big tank. That's why it might not work for them. There is an element of NZ being a Big Fish in the tank as regards playing standards and skills, the odd thing with Rugby Union is that the best [B]paying[/B] Rugby competitions are of a lower standard. The additional element that keeps players in NZ is the prospect of playing for the best national team in the world. Players are not up for selection unless they play in this country, and long may that continue to be the NZRU Policy. That's wrong. The gap between SR player wages and Top 14 player wages is already huge. Players like SBW and Dan Carter can earn in one season what they might earn in three or four seasons in NZ. You do that a Salary Cap is not a cap in what individual players get paid, its a cap on the overall spend that Clubs are allowed to pay wages? NPC does exactly this. Super Rugby players in NPC get their SR salaries to play but non-SR players (who are usually amateurs; they have jobs in real life outside of the roughly 16 weeks they are training and playing NPC) are on a retainer. I think it was around NZ$65,000 last year. NRL has a minimum wage as well, AUD$80,000. [I]"The NRL is one of the few major leagues to implement a salary cap in a sport that has competing leagues in other countries where there is either no salary cap or a much higher cap per club. As a result, there has developed a tradition of players from Australia moving to Europe where salaries for the elite, and even for average players, were considerably higher. The NRL chooses to continue with the cap, believing that any reduction in quality of the sporting product due to the loss of these players is less than allowing richer clubs to dominate" [/I] This is pretty much the same reasoning for the NZRU selecting only players playing in NZ. The departure/retirement of a few top players with a total of over 600 test caps between them (Smith, Nonu, Slade, Mealamu, Carter and McCaw) would have made an irrecoverable dent in the national sides of almost any other country, but it hardly made any difference to us. The reason for that is the NZRU policy. Without it, the majority of their likely replacements would be playing in Europe, and if that happened the standard of our local competitions would fall such that we could no longer develop the talent was well as we currently do. If the policy was changed to allow All Blacks to be selected from players playing in Europe and Japan, it would be an unmitigated disaster for at ALL levels of rugby in New Zealand. [/QUOTE]
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