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<blockquote data-quote="ChicagoKid" data-source="post: 1190348" data-attributes="member: 84242">I disagree, but it&#039;s moot because every winger in the world--outside of the AB&#039;s--is a class below Kolbe and Arendse. Lowe impresses me every time I watch him, but he isn&#039;t Cheslin. I like JGP a lot. But he needs front-foot ball and great ball placement to be effective. He is not a Dupont or Alex Mitchell who can create on their own with their elite athleticism. Ireland struggles to get gain line success against the Boks, and it noticeably affects him. Also, if you want to make it about players out, the Boks are without several starters as well, including some of the best players in the world in Willemse.All I know is Cian Healy shouldn&#039;t be anywhere near a top club team, much less an international side. Leinster clearly don&#039;t trust him either, because if they did, Porter wouldn&#039;t have played nearly every minute versus Toulouse. Watching England vs the AB&#039;s looked like two evenly matched squads, besides the props. And the AB&#039;s props won them the game. I&#039;d argue France is a clear #1 for depth these days, but I don&#039;t want to come across as pedantic. We shall find out now. Hooker is strange globally because outside of Sheehan, there are no other promising young talents coming through. Agreed. This is where Ireland&#039;s development is remarkable. Ireland producing better locks than every other nation except South Africa shouldn&#039;t be possible considering the population/resources.Agreed.I don&#039;t think JGP or Murray make it to RWC27. But I can&#039;t comment on U20 sides because I am too ignorant.Agreed. Pendergast seems overrated to me, but I like Crowley a lot. Yep. Ireland and South Africa clearly have the best midfields, especially after Dante&#039;s form collapsed after the RWC. I rate Keenan. I would have loved to see Willemse vs Keenan. Two completely different players with elite skillsets.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ChicagoKid, post: 1190348, member: 84242"] I disagree, but it's moot because every winger in the world--outside of the AB's--is a class below Kolbe and Arendse. Lowe impresses me every time I watch him, but he isn't Cheslin. I like JGP a lot. But he needs front-foot ball and great ball placement to be effective. He is not a Dupont or Alex Mitchell who can create on their own with their elite athleticism. Ireland struggles to get gain line success against the Boks, and it noticeably affects him. Also, if you want to make it about players out, the Boks are without several starters as well, including some of the best players in the world in Willemse. All I know is Cian Healy shouldn't be anywhere near a top club team, much less an international side. Leinster clearly don't trust him either, because if they did, Porter wouldn't have played nearly every minute versus Toulouse. Watching England vs the AB's looked like two evenly matched squads, besides the props. And the AB's props won them the game. I'd argue France is a clear #1 for depth these days, but I don't want to come across as pedantic. We shall find out now. Hooker is strange globally because outside of Sheehan, there are no other promising young talents coming through. Agreed. This is where Ireland's development is remarkable. Ireland producing better locks than every other nation except South Africa shouldn't be possible considering the population/resources. Agreed. I don't think JGP or Murray make it to RWC27. But I can't comment on U20 sides because I am too ignorant. Agreed. Pendergast seems overrated to me, but I like Crowley a lot. Yep. Ireland and South Africa clearly have the best midfields, especially after Dante's form collapsed after the RWC. I rate Keenan. I would have loved to see Willemse vs Keenan. Two completely different players with elite skillsets. [/QUOTE]

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