Some of the glitches / flaws with the gameplay

[dog]

Someone posted this on the RWC 2011 Official game page:

"<meta charset="utf-8">Here are some flaws:

1) Passing - if you miss a player, the ball goes half way across the field. The animations are pretty bad too.
2) Offloading - its just pretty bad really. Not realistic at all. Not even close.
3) Set plays - very very simple. Haven't changed. Also, when you select most of the set plays, the defense arrange themselves with a 15 metre gap to just run through.
4) Sidestep, hand off, shoulder charge - it's easy to sidestep backs with props, you can charge through back rowers with a fly half
5) Up and under - way to easy, just kick and press X a few times and you'll get it back every time.
6) Goal kicking - flight of the ball, motion of the players, completely unrealistic.
7) Scrums - way too simple. All you can do is push in a straight line or rotate them in a perfect circle at the start of the scrum.
8) Line outs - way too simple. Throwing to the back doesn't work 50% of the time even if you have the timing perfect.
9) Scoring a try - the entire opposition team chases you and your own team follows you so you end up with 30 players in the goal area every time you score.
10) View - when players get to the far side of the pitch it's kind of hard to see what's happening, especially with lots of players around. There's lots more. I'm just being lazy."

There's plenty more and the thing is, all those flaws were in Rugby 06 and Rugby 08. What exactly were they doing over the last year, let alone the last 5 or 6 since 06 came out?

 

[Butterytingz]

this is just a stupid rant by someone who thinks rugby challenge will be amazing. using the words simple and unrealistic doesn't make for a good argument. and for all the people saying its just like 08 I agree, but 08 was an amazing game. and HB have taken it to the next level in RWC2011. the only things I can see them improving on is the lineouts, set plays with the back row from a scrum, and quick options when mark is called.

 

[hobsonm]

for all the people saying its just like 08 I agree, but 08 was an amazing game. and HB have taken it to the next level in RWC2011.

I completely agree. From what I can tell people wanted a completely different game, but that's not how any video game franchise has EVER worked. Fifa, Cod, Madden, they're all just slightly improved every time a new game is released and that's what has happened here. People don't seem to get that HB and 505 haven't been solidly working on this game for the past 4 years, it's been the past 12-18 months, so treat them like any other franchise, when a new game comes out, don't expect wildly different animations, every problem to be solved or complete realism. Let them take it step by step and trust that if we keep putting our money into the game, it will eventually meet the standards set by other sports games., but rugby still has a way to go in the gaming community.

And please don't say RC is gonna hit the nail on the head when it comes out. I saw a video on youtube of live gameplay, it looked like it played badly, and it looked like it simply wasn't as enjoyable as this current franchise HB are working on.

 

[Muzzy]

Someone posted this on the RWC 2011 Official game page:

"<meta charset="utf-8">Here are some flaws:

1) Passing - if you miss a player, the ball goes half way across the field. The animations are pretty bad too.
2) Offloading - its just pretty bad really. Not realistic at all. Not even close.
3) Set plays - very very simple. Haven't changed. Also, when you select most of the set plays, the defense arrange themselves with a 15 metre gap to just run through.
4) Sidestep, hand off, shoulder charge - it's easy to sidestep backs with props, you can charge through back rowers with a fly half
5) Up and under - way to easy, just kick and press X a few times and you'll get it back every time.
6) Goal kicking - flight of the ball, motion of the players, completely unrealistic.
7) Scrums - way too simple. All you can do is push in a straight line or rotate them in a perfect circle at the start of the scrum.
8) Line outs - way too simple. Throwing to the back doesn't work 50% of the time even if you have the timing perfect.
9) Scoring a try - the entire opposition team chases you and your own team follows you so you end up with 30 players in the goal area every time you score.
10) View - when players get to the far side of the pitch it's kind of hard to see what's happening, especially with lots of players around. There's lots more. I'm just being lazy."

There's plenty more and the thing is, all those flaws were in Rugby 06 and Rugby 08. What exactly were they doing over the last year, let alone the last 5 or 6 since 06 came out?

other glitches/problems i've noticed

when you have a kick off, a lot of the time your player will automatically tackle the opposition in the air giving away a penalty, your player does this all by himself for no reason, this has been there since rugby 2005 and they still haven't fixed it, it makes me wonder if the makers actually play their own game, how could they not have noticed it or tried to fix it, maybe they simply don't care

inside pass, when you go to pass it to a player on the inside of you, you simply can't, i was able to do it on the previous rugby games, but when i throw a pass back on the inside it just flings back into nowhere, i've seen on the Rugby Challenge trailer that you can throw an inside pass and it looks very good

everyone already knows about the graphics, i don't see why rugby fans should have to settle for this, i've played every rugby game from the rugby 1995 world cup to this demo, i'm just annoyed that every time HP put out a rugby game it has terrible graphics, i don't know why the irb still lets these people make the official version, if sidhe can produce a rugby game with great graphics then whats HP's excuse

 

[jim546]

The only problem I hate in this game is the broken advantage rules, they don't seem to end after the ball is kicked away and they last for ages. One time the ball was kicked from the SA 22 to Engand's try line and the 'Boks still had advantage when it was picked up by Foden after backtracking most of the pitch. Crazy.

 

[Lochsta22]

Disagree about what you said on scrums. It's the same options you had with Rugby 08. You can pretty much take it wherever you want, there is just no arrow telling you where it's going.

 

[cochizzy]

08 was an amazing game.

this is where i stopped reading

All the flaws should be noted by the HB team...they obviously need this sort of criticism or else future games aren't going to be improved, if at all, we all want HB to improve, competition is a good thing for rugby, i agree with OP improvements needed to be made for a next-gen game. Hardcore rugby gamers have spoken.

 

[kovana]

Still cant believe there are glitches.. Hopefully HB will clean it up before the release date..

One thing i have noticed on Vids etc.. Is when kicking, the ball seems to float in the air and the Kickers leg seems to pass thru the ball..... before it actually gets propelled..

 

[Eddie67]

The animation for players near the touchline.when the ball is close to touchline they don't stop,pick the ball up and run, they just carry on with their running,pick the ball up and then run into touch which sucks. Also I played 4 players last night(2 VS 2) and sometimes you just can't select a player no matter how many times you tap player change button. Also is seems like if there is a penalty between 10m line and half line the mark for the penalty is given on the half line,in the middle ? Anyone else with this problem. Chip kick - the chances of retaining the ball when chipped is 10%. Stupid. Chip over fullback,then the fullback turns around and accelerate **** fast.

 

[11Openside]

this is just a stupid rant by someone who thinks rugby challenge will be amazing

This is silly you can agree with about 90% of the criticism mentioned and still think RWC is a game worth buying. Its hardly trolling when a-lot of the problems are legacy issues from the 06 and 08 games

 

[11Openside]

And please don't say RC is gonna hit the nail on the head when it comes out. I saw a video on youtube of live gameplay, it looked like it played badly, and it looked like it simply wasn't as enjoyable as this current franchise HB are working on

This fan boy thing comes from statements like this the gameplay looks good and you could also say on par with RWC if you thought so. Could it be utter ****..................... of course !!!! that's the proper response if you tried to be objective about it.

 

[DuncTheDoodle]

Has anybody else got a penalty about 65 metres out, on the touchline, opted for goal and been magically shunted to between the posts on half way? Also sometimes happens when you select 'Run'.

 

[raziel_eire]

Just had a glitch occur... hit a chip kick into the opposition ingoal area and decided to follow up with a dive tackle on the expected receiver before he caught it. Penalty awarded to opposition for a dangerous tackle, but penalty given on the halfway line, between the posts... me no like!!!

Also had a box kick collected by the opposition in their ingoal and run it out over the end-goal line and defensive touch down outside the field of play... defensive 22 drop out given instead of attacking 5m scrum to meI've also found an inconsistency where I pass the ball out over my end-goal line, sometimes an attacking scrum is given, othertimes its defensive 22 drop - so the rule is not applied wrong evertime.
When I run it out over my end-goal I've only ever seen the correct decision made... that being an attacking 5m scrum to the opps.

 

[ciaranbyrne91]

If you perform a chip kick and get tackled immediately after it gets called as a knock-on...

 

[Butterytingz]

if HB can improve on anything from the demo to the actual release I think they should fix the quick tap at penalties.... they arent quick at all. and how come no wind direction is shown when selecting options for a penalty?

 

[Duckdee]

I kicked (can't remember what type) into the AI's 22, it called a mark, then kicked it backwards to their own 5m.

 

[lucky number 7]

I kicked (can't remember what type) into the AI's 22, it called a mark, then kicked it backwards to their own 5m.

I want to see this happen

 

[Sam Hanning]

this is just a stupid rant by someone who thinks rugby challenge will be amazing. using the words simple and unrealistic doesn't make for a good argument. and for all the people saying its just like 08 I agree, but 08 was an amazing game. and HB have taken it to the next level in RWC2011.

Exactly right! Do you know what we call people who can't back up their ideas . . . idiots. Did we all not love 08 I know I did, so I might buy RWC 2011 just because I want to support the name and brand that I grew up with. That's why I got a PS3 instead of X-Box 360

 

[MoggsyBoy81]

T be honest, I'd happily pay 30 quid for an 08 upgrade with new teams, kits, players and competitions so happy days. Basically its going to work like this; if this game is a hit EA will come back in get HB to make a mammoth game which will include all comps, players and so many licences they will even have Aberdare under 12's second XV.

Yes it won't be the Holy Grail but its the first step on the journey, invest in this people. No matter what your argument is we're all here because we love rugby games and this is the only way to ensure a future of rugby games. My advice, get it and provide feedback through constructive criticsm OR its just us dudes playing FIFA 38 on these boards complaining about rugby games they don't even make anymore becuase we all got a cobb on an boycotted it.

HB have provided a forum here for US to help with the development of a game, lets get involved and work on it together rather than throwing the toys out of the pram and no one has anything.........plus if i keep playing 08 and rocking back n forth my missus is going o dump me for sure!

 

[Leinster+]

this is just a stupid rant by someone who thinks rugby challenge will be amazing. using the words simple and unrealistic doesn't make for a good argument. and for all the people saying its just like 08 I agree, but 08 was an amazing game. and HB have taken it to the next level in RWC2011. the only things I can see them improving on is the lineouts, set plays with the back row from a scrum, and quick options when mark is called.

Please give me quotes of where he said 'rugby challenge is better' or simply 'rugby challenge/ RC'.