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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thingimubob" data-source="post: 890279" data-attributes="member: 20956">Yeah nah that's rubbish - the only people claiming anything remotely close to that are people who have very little knowledge of rugby, and are vastly in the minority (especially on here).2016 - North being called in touch was bloody frustrating, but I don't remember seeing much about it being a clear cut try after? From what I remember the frustration was at a terrible touch judge call at a period when we had a silly amount of momentum behind us having already scored 3 tries to come back from what looked like a hammering. Most Welsh fans lamented the shocking 60 mins or so before that where England dominated us, and Wales only decided to turn up at the end, a recurring theme as a Welsh fan. In fact I specifically remember [USER=13739]@dullonien[/USER] (I think) saying something along the lines of "why did Wales even risk going wide then?"2017 Yes Welsh fans lamented the poor JD2 clearence, but people said that because you simply can't kick like that to an England team who can counter attack with likes of Ford, Farrell and Daly  - especially with Cuthbert defending Daly... A better touch finder may have secured the win for us, or at the very least not give dangerous England backline the perfect invite to run straight at us... I'd call that crediting England and not arrogant in the slightest? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes    :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />2018 - It was frustrating that the based on the TMO's decision on the grounding alone that the try wasn't given - but vast majority of Welsh fans (especially on here) haven't put that down as the reason for us losing, and have focused on the lack of clinical finishing compared to England? I place far more emphasis on Shingler daftly kicking the ball / the Scott Williams chance costing us a chance at victory than the non try - as have most Welsh fans from what I've seen...Sorry if being annoyed at mistakes by our own bloody team mistakes and dodgy ref calls makes us arrogantTunnel incident - Robshaw and England played just as much of a part in that farce, so don't pretend you lot are whiter than white (pun intended...), especially considering the utterly classless comments Eddie Jones spews on a week in week out basis!PLEASE NOTE - None of this applies to everyone's favourite Ponty fans, VC - according to him I'm practically English because I'm from Cardiff and have a hatred for WalesOnline's rugby coverage <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes    :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> wouldn't base much on his opinion...</blockquote>

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