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Should the Pumas stay in the RC, for the next seasons. Yes or No? Argue
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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 597363" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>The stats you are citing on Samoa's performance are of little relevance to their current strength of the side. The last match they played against the All Blacks in 2008 they had a side that was a million miles from even being close to resembling a full side and shipped 100 points.</p><p></p><p>Also previous results against South Africa such as RWC 2007 for example, don't reflect the increased success they have had from about 2010 onwards of persuading Samoan eligible New Zealanders to play for them and strengthen the side significantly, and also the added factor they are now getting a pretty consistent full side whereas before players were picking and choosing when to play, only turning up at RWC. </p><p></p><p>Their historical results are meaningless given recent developments to the team, and right now they are a better side than Argentina, and I would actually like to see them given the opportunity to play a proper 2/3 match series with RC side in June or something now they're getting their full side more often. Samoa vs Australia or Argentina would be a good interesting match. And by the way that Aussie side they beat was not as understrength as you are making out, in fact it was little different to some of the injury laden sides they have put out in recent times that the likes of Argentina and Wales have consistently failed to beat.</p><p></p><p>Another point I'd like to make, is technically that June situation for the Pumas is mutually agreed between the clubs and the UAR. The PR line that is spun it's to do with "rest and player welfare" with the extra RC workload. Which personally I think is BS, and hopefully the abomination the Pumas June matches have become is rectified soon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 597363, member: 48703"] The stats you are citing on Samoa's performance are of little relevance to their current strength of the side. The last match they played against the All Blacks in 2008 they had a side that was a million miles from even being close to resembling a full side and shipped 100 points. Also previous results against South Africa such as RWC 2007 for example, don't reflect the increased success they have had from about 2010 onwards of persuading Samoan eligible New Zealanders to play for them and strengthen the side significantly, and also the added factor they are now getting a pretty consistent full side whereas before players were picking and choosing when to play, only turning up at RWC. Their historical results are meaningless given recent developments to the team, and right now they are a better side than Argentina, and I would actually like to see them given the opportunity to play a proper 2/3 match series with RC side in June or something now they're getting their full side more often. Samoa vs Australia or Argentina would be a good interesting match. And by the way that Aussie side they beat was not as understrength as you are making out, in fact it was little different to some of the injury laden sides they have put out in recent times that the likes of Argentina and Wales have consistently failed to beat. Another point I'd like to make, is technically that June situation for the Pumas is mutually agreed between the clubs and the UAR. The PR line that is spun it's to do with "rest and player welfare" with the extra RC workload. Which personally I think is BS, and hopefully the abomination the Pumas June matches have become is rectified soon. [/QUOTE]
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