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Should the Pumas stay in the RC, for the next seasons. Yes or No? Argue
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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 597339" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>Its a nice idea, but there is not a chance of Samoa joining The Rugby Championship. </p><p></p><p>Firstly, performance. </p><p>Samoa had one win over a very poor and badly under strength Australian team. However, during the professional era, they have not come within 40 points of the All Blacks (losing by an average score of 68-11), and despite one good result losing only 13-5 to South Africa at the 2011 RWC, their record against the Bokke is not a lot better. </p><p></p><p>Secondly, the money.</p><p> Samoa simply cannot afford to host four matches in Samoa, then travel for four matches around the globe, and I cannot see News Ltd buying into the extra money needed to accommodate this. Samoa only has a population of less than 190,000 and a good deal of them would be classed as living in near third world conditions. There is little if any potential for News Ltd to make back any money they might invest.</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, the players.</p><p> The French and English Clubs only grudgingly release Argentina's players for the Rugby Championship, with the French Clubs actually placing illegal restrictions on their access to their players during the June Internationals and warm up matches. They would throw a real fit if they had to release their Samoan players as well.</p><p></p><p>Just remember that every time Argentina plays the All Blacks, the Bokke or the Wallabies, they are playing teams that are ranked several ranking places ahead of them. Statistically, they aren't going to win very many of those matches unless they have a stellar year like they did in 2006/07, winning 16 of their 20 matches, including victories over <strong>all </strong>of the Six Nations teams and finishing third in the World Cup, and climbing to third in the world rankings as well, ahead of England, Australia and France. </p><p></p><p>IMO, SANZAR missed the boat with Argentina in 2007. They should have included them from 2008, not spent another four years sitting on their hands over the issue. By 2012, it was too late.</p><p></p><p>So, how can Argentina improve? Well, for starters, they MUST somehow be included in Super Rugby. It is essential for them to have a minimum of two franchises and to have a few other players scattered through the franchises of the other three countries. Playing in Super Rugby will harden them to the type of rugby they need to be playing week-in and week-out in order to do well in the Rugby Championship. Playing in Europe simply doesn't do that. Anyone who does not believe this, tell me how many players have come back from playing a couple of seasons in Europe, made it back in the All Blacks or Springboks or Wallabies, and excelled. Compare that with the number of players who have come back and failed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 597339, member: 20605"] Its a nice idea, but there is not a chance of Samoa joining The Rugby Championship. Firstly, performance. Samoa had one win over a very poor and badly under strength Australian team. However, during the professional era, they have not come within 40 points of the All Blacks (losing by an average score of 68-11), and despite one good result losing only 13-5 to South Africa at the 2011 RWC, their record against the Bokke is not a lot better. Secondly, the money. Samoa simply cannot afford to host four matches in Samoa, then travel for four matches around the globe, and I cannot see News Ltd buying into the extra money needed to accommodate this. Samoa only has a population of less than 190,000 and a good deal of them would be classed as living in near third world conditions. There is little if any potential for News Ltd to make back any money they might invest. Thirdly, the players. The French and English Clubs only grudgingly release Argentina's players for the Rugby Championship, with the French Clubs actually placing illegal restrictions on their access to their players during the June Internationals and warm up matches. They would throw a real fit if they had to release their Samoan players as well. Just remember that every time Argentina plays the All Blacks, the Bokke or the Wallabies, they are playing teams that are ranked several ranking places ahead of them. Statistically, they aren't going to win very many of those matches unless they have a stellar year like they did in 2006/07, winning 16 of their 20 matches, including victories over [B]all [/B]of the Six Nations teams and finishing third in the World Cup, and climbing to third in the world rankings as well, ahead of England, Australia and France. IMO, SANZAR missed the boat with Argentina in 2007. They should have included them from 2008, not spent another four years sitting on their hands over the issue. By 2012, it was too late. So, how can Argentina improve? Well, for starters, they MUST somehow be included in Super Rugby. It is essential for them to have a minimum of two franchises and to have a few other players scattered through the franchises of the other three countries. Playing in Super Rugby will harden them to the type of rugby they need to be playing week-in and week-out in order to do well in the Rugby Championship. Playing in Europe simply doesn't do that. Anyone who does not believe this, tell me how many players have come back from playing a couple of seasons in Europe, made it back in the All Blacks or Springboks or Wallabies, and excelled. Compare that with the number of players who have come back and failed. [/QUOTE]
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