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Saturday, 6 August: Springboks v New Zealand
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<blockquote data-quote="GoTheNaki" data-source="post: 1097713" data-attributes="member: 70789"><p>We know.</p><p></p><p>The problem comes with this hand-me-down system that the coaching team has taking on, and that should be COMPLETELY irrelevant in competitive sports. Loyalty is great, but such a longtime commitment to players that are out of form, or not the best at their position anymore in New Zealand Rugby is just ridiculous(See the Cane situation, or how about Laumape, Beauden Barrett?). When McCaw was captain, Sam Cane was slated as "the next big thing and captain.", and form, leadership, and ability in comparison to everyone else who plays openside flanker in the international game of rugby has been completely looked past... When you look at past captains of New Zealand Rugby, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw, even when Sam hasn't played it has been Ardie Savea, Whitelock, Retallick(I think?)... And the hilarity about this is, I would honestly take Savea, Whitelock, and Retallick over Sam Cane. Whitelock has been in the All Blacks since 2010, and there has really been ZERO issue about him holding his position in a black jersey. Sam Cane being the best openside flanker in New Zealand has been a debate for at least the last 5 years. Was there EVER a debate about McCaw, or Read, Whitelock, Retallick? No... No international team is worried about Sam Cane pilfering the ball, the suggestion is comical, and even playing at 6 or 8, the threat is Savea, and it has been for years. When we need someone to step up, it is always Savea, when we are getting pumped defending the try line, it is always Savea with some "how the f--- did he do that" moment... I do think it should be Savea as captain, but the logistics and politics make that seem rather unlikely.</p><p></p><p><strong>"Ian Foster praises ABs: 'Our most improved performance of the year"</strong></p><p></p><p>Look at this rubbish. It's like we're Australia or Scotland.............. Come on now... We've been "rebuilding" at a minimum since 2019, and there is at least 3 teams in the world better than New Zealand right now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GoTheNaki, post: 1097713, member: 70789"] We know. The problem comes with this hand-me-down system that the coaching team has taking on, and that should be COMPLETELY irrelevant in competitive sports. Loyalty is great, but such a longtime commitment to players that are out of form, or not the best at their position anymore in New Zealand Rugby is just ridiculous(See the Cane situation, or how about Laumape, Beauden Barrett?). When McCaw was captain, Sam Cane was slated as "the next big thing and captain.", and form, leadership, and ability in comparison to everyone else who plays openside flanker in the international game of rugby has been completely looked past... When you look at past captains of New Zealand Rugby, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw, even when Sam hasn't played it has been Ardie Savea, Whitelock, Retallick(I think?)... And the hilarity about this is, I would honestly take Savea, Whitelock, and Retallick over Sam Cane. Whitelock has been in the All Blacks since 2010, and there has really been ZERO issue about him holding his position in a black jersey. Sam Cane being the best openside flanker in New Zealand has been a debate for at least the last 5 years. Was there EVER a debate about McCaw, or Read, Whitelock, Retallick? No... No international team is worried about Sam Cane pilfering the ball, the suggestion is comical, and even playing at 6 or 8, the threat is Savea, and it has been for years. When we need someone to step up, it is always Savea, when we are getting pumped defending the try line, it is always Savea with some "how the f--- did he do that" moment... I do think it should be Savea as captain, but the logistics and politics make that seem rather unlikely. [B]"Ian Foster praises ABs: 'Our most improved performance of the year"[/B] Look at this rubbish. It's like we're Australia or Scotland.............. Come on now... We've been "rebuilding" at a minimum since 2019, and there is at least 3 teams in the world better than New Zealand right now. [/QUOTE]
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