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<blockquote data-quote="ZeroTwo" data-source="post: 742946" data-attributes="member: 72695"><p>Most of what you've said is fair, even if I don't agree with it.</p><p></p><p>In terms of the women being 50% quotas, there are good examples of it working (<a href="http://theconversation.com/lessons-from-norway-in-getting-women-onto-corporate-boards-38338" target="_blank">http://theconversation.com/lessons-from-norway-in-getting-women-onto-corporate-boards-38338</a>). Everyone says it is unfair, but I think it's frankly unfair that some races, genders etc are encouraged not to compete in certain businesses, sports or activities from the point they were born. Perhaps quota systems have SOMETHING to be said for them. It's possible to shock the system then get rid of the quota when the cultural prejudice has disappeared.</p><p></p><p>Saying two CEOs should always get paid the same is ridiculous and pay equality is actually an area where there have been great advances between genders (mostly in Europe).</p><p></p><p>Now before I'm torn head from torso for supporting the quota system in elite sport, I don't. Politics dictating selection will make a shambles of the team and crush team spirit. I just think that saying that modern movements are full of bigots and that you can't support them is unfair and disrespectful to the majority which are good people (who may have one or two wayward beliefs, but we all do and it isn't the important points).</p><p></p><p>Completely agree that it should be about raising up everyone to the same level, not being dragged down. This might have to cause those who have it easy to stagnate for a bit while everyone catches up though.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for the last word. Completely understand where you're coming from and as you say it's gone off topic. If you fancy discussing it further (with sources linked I promise) then feel free to PM me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ZeroTwo, post: 742946, member: 72695"] Most of what you've said is fair, even if I don't agree with it. In terms of the women being 50% quotas, there are good examples of it working ([url]http://theconversation.com/lessons-from-norway-in-getting-women-onto-corporate-boards-38338[/url]). Everyone says it is unfair, but I think it's frankly unfair that some races, genders etc are encouraged not to compete in certain businesses, sports or activities from the point they were born. Perhaps quota systems have SOMETHING to be said for them. It's possible to shock the system then get rid of the quota when the cultural prejudice has disappeared. Saying two CEOs should always get paid the same is ridiculous and pay equality is actually an area where there have been great advances between genders (mostly in Europe). Now before I'm torn head from torso for supporting the quota system in elite sport, I don't. Politics dictating selection will make a shambles of the team and crush team spirit. I just think that saying that modern movements are full of bigots and that you can't support them is unfair and disrespectful to the majority which are good people (who may have one or two wayward beliefs, but we all do and it isn't the important points). Completely agree that it should be about raising up everyone to the same level, not being dragged down. This might have to cause those who have it easy to stagnate for a bit while everyone catches up though. Thank you for the last word. Completely understand where you're coming from and as you say it's gone off topic. If you fancy discussing it further (with sources linked I promise) then feel free to PM me. [/QUOTE]
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