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[RWC2023 QF2] Ireland vs New Zealand (14/10/2023)
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<blockquote data-quote="Zootalaws" data-source="post: 1159874" data-attributes="member: 61187"><p>Christie moved to NZ when he was 7. </p><p></p><p>What age did Aki, Gibson-Park, Lowe, Boss move to Ireland? They were men, who had represented at a senior level. in total, youve had 17 Kiwis that have played for Ireland. Very few of those moved as kids - Carbury is the only one I can recall.</p><p></p><p>And how many 'born and bred Celts' have played for NZ? Two in my memory - Christie - who had never touched a rugby ball before moving to NZ, and John Gallagher who emigrated to NZ to be a copper and started playing for my local club, Oriental-Rongotai. He became a citizen before he became a pro player.</p><p></p><p>You're comparing them with guys who moved to play rugby. Who were never going to get in their national team. Who were attractive to Irish rugby because they had learned their craft in NZ and played a NZ style of ball.</p><p></p><p>Nobody is sending talent scouts to Scotland and Ireland and Wales to spot and recruit talent to NZ. But your teams are definitely doing that in NZ.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure why you are claiming you 'gotta laugh' - your clubs seem to take it pretty fkn seriously to try and convince young Kiwi talent to move to Ireland. It's not just your national team, but there's a bunch of young kiwi rugby players in your provinces playing for your clubs. And you're paying them to do it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zootalaws, post: 1159874, member: 61187"] Christie moved to NZ when he was 7. What age did Aki, Gibson-Park, Lowe, Boss move to Ireland? They were men, who had represented at a senior level. in total, youve had 17 Kiwis that have played for Ireland. Very few of those moved as kids - Carbury is the only one I can recall. And how many 'born and bred Celts' have played for NZ? Two in my memory - Christie - who had never touched a rugby ball before moving to NZ, and John Gallagher who emigrated to NZ to be a copper and started playing for my local club, Oriental-Rongotai. He became a citizen before he became a pro player. You're comparing them with guys who moved to play rugby. Who were never going to get in their national team. Who were attractive to Irish rugby because they had learned their craft in NZ and played a NZ style of ball. Nobody is sending talent scouts to Scotland and Ireland and Wales to spot and recruit talent to NZ. But your teams are definitely doing that in NZ. I'm not sure why you are claiming you 'gotta laugh' - your clubs seem to take it pretty fkn seriously to try and convince young Kiwi talent to move to Ireland. It's not just your national team, but there's a bunch of young kiwi rugby players in your provinces playing for your clubs. And you're paying them to do it. [/QUOTE]
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