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[RWC2023] France vs New Zealand (08/09/2023)
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<blockquote data-quote="Umaga&#039;s Witness" data-source="post: 1144745" data-attributes="member: 65365"><p>I don't really have the energy to debate whether or why foster is a good coach. The point of my post was to see if the poster bagging foster was just another uniformed foster bagger or not.</p><p></p><p>I'm not arguing foster is a good coach, there is very little evidence to support that. But, put simply, one can't use a comparison of his record compared to other all blacks coaches records as evidence of his coaching ability when head coaching isn't the only thing that determines how well the all blacks do. So, if one wants to make the argument that he is crap one needs good reasons as to why. And if someone doesn't acknowledge that our players aren't as good as they were, that other players in other countries are now better, and so is their coaching, then their opinion that its all fosters fault better come with some pretty strong analysis. </p><p></p><p>Having read thousands of comments about foster being crap I can say that good and coherent arguments are very rare. Almost no New Zealanders understand that rugby has improved in the rest of the world for instance. People are starting to a bit now, but they didn't while they were all circling around foster last year watching and cheering on other members of their pack/mob who were kicking the **** out of him. It's just gross. The robertson obsession is gross too. And the robertson obsessed are always the most irrational in their views of foster. </p><p></p><p>The irony is that all the pressure caused by the haters has had a negative impact on the players, like a self fulfilling prophecy.</p><p></p><p>I've got my reasons why foster isn't great, but unlike most other peoples my reasons are put into perspective, Don't involve self contradictions, aren't overly passionate and arrogant given my level of understanding of rugby around the world, and don't involve illogical rationale. </p><p></p><p>Plus, I support the all blacks, so will support whichever coaches and players are selected.</p><p> </p><p>We've gone progressively backwards since 2015. But the 2015 team was great, lots of people even think they were the best ever. So let's celebrate that they were great, rather than bagging foster.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umaga's Witness, post: 1144745, member: 65365"] I don't really have the energy to debate whether or why foster is a good coach. The point of my post was to see if the poster bagging foster was just another uniformed foster bagger or not. I'm not arguing foster is a good coach, there is very little evidence to support that. But, put simply, one can't use a comparison of his record compared to other all blacks coaches records as evidence of his coaching ability when head coaching isn't the only thing that determines how well the all blacks do. So, if one wants to make the argument that he is crap one needs good reasons as to why. And if someone doesn't acknowledge that our players aren't as good as they were, that other players in other countries are now better, and so is their coaching, then their opinion that its all fosters fault better come with some pretty strong analysis. Having read thousands of comments about foster being crap I can say that good and coherent arguments are very rare. Almost no New Zealanders understand that rugby has improved in the rest of the world for instance. People are starting to a bit now, but they didn't while they were all circling around foster last year watching and cheering on other members of their pack/mob who were kicking the **** out of him. It's just gross. The robertson obsession is gross too. And the robertson obsessed are always the most irrational in their views of foster. The irony is that all the pressure caused by the haters has had a negative impact on the players, like a self fulfilling prophecy. I've got my reasons why foster isn't great, but unlike most other peoples my reasons are put into perspective, Don't involve self contradictions, aren't overly passionate and arrogant given my level of understanding of rugby around the world, and don't involve illogical rationale. Plus, I support the all blacks, so will support whichever coaches and players are selected. We've gone progressively backwards since 2015. But the 2015 team was great, lots of people even think they were the best ever. So let's celebrate that they were great, rather than bagging foster. [/QUOTE]
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