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Rugby World Cup 2015
RWC: Argentina - England (10-09-2011, 20:30)
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<blockquote data-quote="Logorrhea" data-source="post: 440359" data-attributes="member: 43061"><p>I'm not ignoring the previous bits of your post, I just saw all those games you mentioned and dont remember Croft ever putting in a performance that stood out. For a loose forward thats pretty difficult thing to do. </p><p></p><p>You are also praising Croft for his performances through the days when England were playing some of the worst rugby ever seen on the planet. A lot of which changed when the new players were introduced. I seem to remember Flood (before he broke), Aston, Foden (in particular), Youngs, Palmer, Lawes, Cole, Hartley etc all taking a fair bit of the credit for the improved performances. I rarely heard about Crofts huge impact on anything but another sterile performance against Scotland. Again, I think hes a fine player, just seriously overhyped.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we are pretty much agreed that Croft is an undersized and underpowered second row, hes an oversized and ineffective openside, and hes not an overly effective 6. But you dissagree with me and tell me hes as good as any other 6 in the world at the moment? </p><p></p><p>Not trying to get into a ding dong with you about it. I'll happily agree to dissagree ................... but I dissagree.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Logorrhea, post: 440359, member: 43061"] I'm not ignoring the previous bits of your post, I just saw all those games you mentioned and dont remember Croft ever putting in a performance that stood out. For a loose forward thats pretty difficult thing to do. You are also praising Croft for his performances through the days when England were playing some of the worst rugby ever seen on the planet. A lot of which changed when the new players were introduced. I seem to remember Flood (before he broke), Aston, Foden (in particular), Youngs, Palmer, Lawes, Cole, Hartley etc all taking a fair bit of the credit for the improved performances. I rarely heard about Crofts huge impact on anything but another sterile performance against Scotland. Again, I think hes a fine player, just seriously overhyped. I think we are pretty much agreed that Croft is an undersized and underpowered second row, hes an oversized and ineffective openside, and hes not an overly effective 6. But you dissagree with me and tell me hes as good as any other 6 in the world at the moment? Not trying to get into a ding dong with you about it. I'll happily agree to dissagree ................... but I dissagree. [/QUOTE]
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