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<blockquote data-quote="Maccaweeny" data-source="post: 222441"><p>Human rights are in no way universal, nor is representative government the 'best' system, the mere fact that it is rarely if ever truly representative of a polity is evidence of that. </p><p></p><p>What people consider to be civil liberties will often depend on their background and economic status. If you're working an office job with a full stomach, health insurance and a nice car, you will trump lovely things like freedom of association, speech and due democratic process, judicial independence and a separation of powers. On the other hand, if you're living in a shanty-town without even the most basic of amenities, what does free speech give you? does it feed your family? does it keep you warm? does it cure the ailments of hard living? </p><p></p><p>Ever wondered why authoritarian regimes have flourished in poorer nations, because when you're struggling to survive rights to basic healthcare, education, shelter and affordable provisions become far more important than something ephemeral like freedom of speech (especially for those who can't read or write). </p><p></p><p>It's why the Bolsheviks had it right when before the revolution their slogan was simply "bread, peace, land". It's naive to think that you give someone the right to vote an elected government and they'll be happy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maccaweeny, post: 222441"] Human rights are in no way universal, nor is representative government the 'best' system, the mere fact that it is rarely if ever truly representative of a polity is evidence of that. What people consider to be civil liberties will often depend on their background and economic status. If you're working an office job with a full stomach, health insurance and a nice car, you will trump lovely things like freedom of association, speech and due democratic process, judicial independence and a separation of powers. On the other hand, if you're living in a shanty-town without even the most basic of amenities, what does free speech give you? does it feed your family? does it keep you warm? does it cure the ailments of hard living? Ever wondered why authoritarian regimes have flourished in poorer nations, because when you're struggling to survive rights to basic healthcare, education, shelter and affordable provisions become far more important than something ephemeral like freedom of speech (especially for those who can't read or write). It's why the Bolsheviks had it right when before the revolution their slogan was simply "bread, peace, land". It's naive to think that you give someone the right to vote an elected government and they'll be happy. [/QUOTE]
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