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<blockquote data-quote="beerholder" data-source="post: 896778" data-attributes="member: 44044"><p>Yeah, me too. I actually gave my analysis in a comment there with a timeline, the numbers with * are ref mistakes I deemed obvious.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1 - 0:05 you can see the Red 4 on his feet with his hands on the ball, the yellow player not releasing the ball</p><p>2 - 0:13 2 yellow players off their feet handling the ball</p><p>3 - 0:19 obstruction, you can see it how at 0:21, yellow player stops just in time to cover the ball carrier </p><p>4 - 0:34 the neckgrab that should have been a yellow wasn't penalized...</p><p>*5 - 1:50 not visible in the footage, the ref signaled offside at scrum (i'm gonna let this slip as a ref mistake)</p><p>6 - 2:00 yellow players are offside at maul, it's difficult to know which team is carrying then a yellow #2 contests the ruck from the red side</p><p>7 - 2:15 forward pass not a penalty. It's difficult to say from the footage, i'm goinna let this slip as well</p><p>*8 - 2:52 seems unclear at first, after watching the full scene it looks indeed like Belgium was given a penalty here out of nothing.</p><p>9 - 3:00 was this supposed to make us believe Spain deserved a penalty for a late tackle? Red was already commited, no argument.</p><p>10 - 3:11 fair drive by red followed by a side entry by yellow. Red player righfully slaps his left cheek at 3:15 <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>11 - 3:26 #7 yellow clearly not rolling away</p><p>12 - 3:36 Red clearly on his feet contesting the ball, a case can be made if 7 red actually rolled away in time but the ball was out there</p><p>13 - 3:49 you have to look for the actual footage here, spain collapse the maul</p><p>14 - 4:05 ...just look at it...</p><p>*15 - 4:22 Wrogful penalty awarded to Belgium, admitently was a red boot in the scrum, ref probably thought it was a yellow hand in there</p><p>16 - 4:32 Dead ball - scrum. No argument</p><p>17 - 4:45 wheeling the scrum, you can see how Belgium was stable while Spain tried to dance around.</p><p>18 - 5:12 this was a penalty for Spain, but it was stopped for an apparent knock on made by Spain (not seen but presumed) Belgium players stopped playing.</p><p>19 - 5:40 you can see Red with on his feet with hands on the ball</p><p>20 - 5:51 clearly from the side, no discussion.</p><p>21 - 6:12 it's difficult to see, but the infringement seems to be a yellow player playing the ball on the ground. The card was probably given for repeated infringements in the ruck (which we've seen)</p><p>22 - 6:40 throw not straigh - scrum</p><p>23 - 6:49 In the scrum that followed Spanish 1st row raised, Belgium played advantage, it's arguable if the pass at 7:09 was forward, they knock it on and then return to the original scrum penalty</p><p>24 - 7:36 the ref wanted to let it go away, but look at his gesture. One spanish player actually covers the mouth of his teammate to prevent him talking ****...</p><p>25 - 7:47 maul not contested, but can be argued that Belgium players made contact with the ball carrier. Either way, the maul must be called out by the ref.</p><p>*26 - 8:08 Indeed not seen by the ref</p><p>27 - 8:25 Red had his hands on the ball. What is the argument?</p><p>28 - 8:48 Yellow #3 clearly lost his footing in the scrum. No argument.</p><p>*29 - 9:00 It looks like a high tacke, even though not clear, I'm gonna let this slide</p><p>30 - 9:34 He's holding the ball because the tackle was not complete, you can see the tackler not rolling away either because he's still in motion. Arguable, but I think the ref was right on this one.</p><p>31 - 9:41 The penalty was given, but usually no cards are given for deliberate knock ons... it was not a scoring situation and it's not clear that an attempt to catch the ball was not made.</p><p>32 - if you can pause at 10:03 you can see 11 red being blocked from tackling the yellow player. Accidental obstruction - penalty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="beerholder, post: 896778, member: 44044"] Yeah, me too. I actually gave my analysis in a comment there with a timeline, the numbers with * are ref mistakes I deemed obvious. 1 - 0:05 you can see the Red 4 on his feet with his hands on the ball, the yellow player not releasing the ball 2 - 0:13 2 yellow players off their feet handling the ball 3 - 0:19 obstruction, you can see it how at 0:21, yellow player stops just in time to cover the ball carrier 4 - 0:34 the neckgrab that should have been a yellow wasn't penalized... *5 - 1:50 not visible in the footage, the ref signaled offside at scrum (i'm gonna let this slip as a ref mistake) 6 - 2:00 yellow players are offside at maul, it's difficult to know which team is carrying then a yellow #2 contests the ruck from the red side 7 - 2:15 forward pass not a penalty. It's difficult to say from the footage, i'm goinna let this slip as well *8 - 2:52 seems unclear at first, after watching the full scene it looks indeed like Belgium was given a penalty here out of nothing. 9 - 3:00 was this supposed to make us believe Spain deserved a penalty for a late tackle? Red was already commited, no argument. 10 - 3:11 fair drive by red followed by a side entry by yellow. Red player righfully slaps his left cheek at 3:15 :) 11 - 3:26 #7 yellow clearly not rolling away 12 - 3:36 Red clearly on his feet contesting the ball, a case can be made if 7 red actually rolled away in time but the ball was out there 13 - 3:49 you have to look for the actual footage here, spain collapse the maul 14 - 4:05 ...just look at it... *15 - 4:22 Wrogful penalty awarded to Belgium, admitently was a red boot in the scrum, ref probably thought it was a yellow hand in there 16 - 4:32 Dead ball - scrum. No argument 17 - 4:45 wheeling the scrum, you can see how Belgium was stable while Spain tried to dance around. 18 - 5:12 this was a penalty for Spain, but it was stopped for an apparent knock on made by Spain (not seen but presumed) Belgium players stopped playing. 19 - 5:40 you can see Red with on his feet with hands on the ball 20 - 5:51 clearly from the side, no discussion. 21 - 6:12 it's difficult to see, but the infringement seems to be a yellow player playing the ball on the ground. The card was probably given for repeated infringements in the ruck (which we've seen) 22 - 6:40 throw not straigh - scrum 23 - 6:49 In the scrum that followed Spanish 1st row raised, Belgium played advantage, it's arguable if the pass at 7:09 was forward, they knock it on and then return to the original scrum penalty 24 - 7:36 the ref wanted to let it go away, but look at his gesture. One spanish player actually covers the mouth of his teammate to prevent him talking ****... 25 - 7:47 maul not contested, but can be argued that Belgium players made contact with the ball carrier. Either way, the maul must be called out by the ref. *26 - 8:08 Indeed not seen by the ref 27 - 8:25 Red had his hands on the ball. What is the argument? 28 - 8:48 Yellow #3 clearly lost his footing in the scrum. No argument. *29 - 9:00 It looks like a high tacke, even though not clear, I'm gonna let this slide 30 - 9:34 He's holding the ball because the tackle was not complete, you can see the tackler not rolling away either because he's still in motion. Arguable, but I think the ref was right on this one. 31 - 9:41 The penalty was given, but usually no cards are given for deliberate knock ons... it was not a scoring situation and it's not clear that an attempt to catch the ball was not made. 32 - if you can pause at 10:03 you can see 11 red being blocked from tackling the yellow player. Accidental obstruction - penalty. [/QUOTE]
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