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<blockquote data-quote="Bada-Bing!" data-source="post: 1183127" data-attributes="member: 70552"><p>The issue is that when you pick your phone up momentarily even stationary whatever you're reading on your phone can take up your attention for several seconds even after you put it down and it only takes a split second and someone walking in front to hit into them. Hence why the law is rightly so strict and covers drivers picking up their phone for an second even if stationary in traffic.</p><p></p><p>The 6 points (knock on effect on insurance premiums) and £200 fine is to reflect the severity of the offence. I wish they would apply that to drivers who close pass cyclists.</p><p></p><p>And A lot of drivers who do, end up continuing to use the phone even after they touch it once stationary. A common one is leaving it on the lap so it can't be seen by cameras, and then claim they weren't holding it but it's pretty obvious one where you can see the driver looking down at their lap. It's still caught under the regulations.</p><p></p><p>I don't personally see a problem with what he's doing, he does it in his own time and only uploads the footage once they have been given due process by police and magistrates. His critics often call him a vigilante or snitch but he's only providing evidence of their wrongdoing. He doesn't owe these drivers anything, but trying to stop their mobile phone behaviour whilst driving. It's the mobile phone drivers who owe other road users (I include other drivers, pedestrians, dogs and cyclists) the duty of care not to be distracted whilst driving. And think they are entitled to get away with it.</p><p></p><p>He risks getting attacked and has been but he knows the risk and says he wears a hidden third camera to stream to his home server in the event he does.</p><p></p><p>There's a separate issue that there just aren't enough police and cameras to catch such drivers - and it's endemic. Hence there wouldn't be a need for them to rely on Joe Public wearing cameras/smart phones to do their job for them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bada-Bing!, post: 1183127, member: 70552"] The issue is that when you pick your phone up momentarily even stationary whatever you're reading on your phone can take up your attention for several seconds even after you put it down and it only takes a split second and someone walking in front to hit into them. Hence why the law is rightly so strict and covers drivers picking up their phone for an second even if stationary in traffic. The 6 points (knock on effect on insurance premiums) and £200 fine is to reflect the severity of the offence. I wish they would apply that to drivers who close pass cyclists. And A lot of drivers who do, end up continuing to use the phone even after they touch it once stationary. A common one is leaving it on the lap so it can't be seen by cameras, and then claim they weren't holding it but it's pretty obvious one where you can see the driver looking down at their lap. It's still caught under the regulations. I don't personally see a problem with what he's doing, he does it in his own time and only uploads the footage once they have been given due process by police and magistrates. His critics often call him a vigilante or snitch but he's only providing evidence of their wrongdoing. He doesn't owe these drivers anything, but trying to stop their mobile phone behaviour whilst driving. It's the mobile phone drivers who owe other road users (I include other drivers, pedestrians, dogs and cyclists) the duty of care not to be distracted whilst driving. And think they are entitled to get away with it. He risks getting attacked and has been but he knows the risk and says he wears a hidden third camera to stream to his home server in the event he does. There's a separate issue that there just aren't enough police and cameras to catch such drivers - and it's endemic. Hence there wouldn't be a need for them to rely on Joe Public wearing cameras/smart phones to do their job for them. [/QUOTE]
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