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<blockquote data-quote="Bill" data-source="post: 942696" data-attributes="member: 79436"><p>I thought WIlson was great value at 3/1 4/1 to beat Trump. I still think he's decent value now at 5/1. The only reason I would have put a really big bet (for me) on though was because I thought he was at least 50/50 to win the match. I did think that at the start and after the 1st session, but not now. Saying that though, I can't see him losing to Higgins or Gilbert based on how they're playing, so still think that 14/1 for the tournament's a great price, so might still stick a bit on him to go all the way in the morning even though I think it's more likely to lose than not.</p><p></p><p>I can't believe the girth of Higgins btw. Looks like a barrell. I know it's not an athletic sport, but I can't believe that any sportsman can be at their best in that shape.</p><p></p><p>You make some interesting points on commentators. It's interesting to think what a commentator is. And I suppose it's someone that informs you about what's going on AND keeps you entertained. To me the balance between those 2 varies from sport to sport, and I think that's probably why we see a different mix of commentators from sporting backgrounds and journalistic backgrounds in various different sports. In sports like cricket there are traditionally more from the sports background, whereas in football I'd say that it tends to be less so. Perhaps that's more because football fans are focused more on the game and less on being kept cheerfully entertained. I would have thought that snooker might fall more onto the cricket side of things where it's less fast paced and more need for entertainment. It's funny though to think that where that entertainment side is more of a factor, that the ex sportsmen tend to prevail more. You might think it would be the other way round. I had a think about who are the most famous, iconic, well loved and respected sports commentators. Tbh I thought they would be ex sportsmen. But the names I think of first are :</p><p></p><p>Bill McLaren</p><p>Brian Johnson</p><p>John Arlott</p><p>David Coleman</p><p>John Motson</p><p>Ted Lowe</p><p></p><p>I think I'm right in saying not a top level sporting appearance between them.</p><p></p><p>Could maybe add Brendan Foster and Steve Cram* (whose commentary of Mo Farah's 2012 gold I think was outstanding), but still the big names seem to come from the journalistic sports lover background, rather than the ex sportsman background.</p><p></p><p>What does all that tell us about your theory for the snooker comm box ? I don't know tbh ! One thing I would say though is that I think that snooker watches want to be entertained. I think it's not just about what's going on, but having some company that you enjoy, and I think that quite a few of the current crop seem to tick that box one way or another. It's not perfect, but personally I don't think it needs a radical change. I think that McManus has got the balance of providing great insight, whilst being 'nice' to listen to. Maybe he can buck the trend and make it into the list of greats someday !</p><p></p><p>* and possibly Benaud too, but personally I think he was rubbish. Also peter alliss and dan maskell tbf.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bill, post: 942696, member: 79436"] I thought WIlson was great value at 3/1 4/1 to beat Trump. I still think he's decent value now at 5/1. The only reason I would have put a really big bet (for me) on though was because I thought he was at least 50/50 to win the match. I did think that at the start and after the 1st session, but not now. Saying that though, I can't see him losing to Higgins or Gilbert based on how they're playing, so still think that 14/1 for the tournament's a great price, so might still stick a bit on him to go all the way in the morning even though I think it's more likely to lose than not. I can't believe the girth of Higgins btw. Looks like a barrell. I know it's not an athletic sport, but I can't believe that any sportsman can be at their best in that shape. You make some interesting points on commentators. It's interesting to think what a commentator is. And I suppose it's someone that informs you about what's going on AND keeps you entertained. To me the balance between those 2 varies from sport to sport, and I think that's probably why we see a different mix of commentators from sporting backgrounds and journalistic backgrounds in various different sports. In sports like cricket there are traditionally more from the sports background, whereas in football I'd say that it tends to be less so. Perhaps that's more because football fans are focused more on the game and less on being kept cheerfully entertained. I would have thought that snooker might fall more onto the cricket side of things where it's less fast paced and more need for entertainment. It's funny though to think that where that entertainment side is more of a factor, that the ex sportsmen tend to prevail more. You might think it would be the other way round. I had a think about who are the most famous, iconic, well loved and respected sports commentators. Tbh I thought they would be ex sportsmen. But the names I think of first are : Bill McLaren Brian Johnson John Arlott David Coleman John Motson Ted Lowe I think I'm right in saying not a top level sporting appearance between them. Could maybe add Brendan Foster and Steve Cram* (whose commentary of Mo Farah's 2012 gold I think was outstanding), but still the big names seem to come from the journalistic sports lover background, rather than the ex sportsman background. What does all that tell us about your theory for the snooker comm box ? I don't know tbh ! One thing I would say though is that I think that snooker watches want to be entertained. I think it's not just about what's going on, but having some company that you enjoy, and I think that quite a few of the current crop seem to tick that box one way or another. It's not perfect, but personally I don't think it needs a radical change. I think that McManus has got the balance of providing great insight, whilst being 'nice' to listen to. Maybe he can buck the trend and make it into the list of greats someday ! * and possibly Benaud too, but personally I think he was rubbish. Also peter alliss and dan maskell tbf. [/QUOTE]
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