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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 738331" data-attributes="member: 20605"><p>Stormer, you are completely misrepresenting the meaning of that memo and conflating two separate issues. I get tired of hearing this old chestnut being dragged up as some kind of "proof" of some imagined conspiracy against the Springboks. Its just complete and utter BS.</p><p></p><p>The actual phrase used was NOT <em>"lets get the Japies"</em>, it was <em>"lets teach those Japies a lesson"</em>. While that phrasing in the memo was totally inappropriate, it was blown out of all proportion by the South African media, who frankly, stoked up the fires and flat out lied to the South African public. There is a reason why their media never published the whole actual memo; because it had absolutely NOTHING to do with a conspiracy to do some crooked refereeing with regards to the South African rugby team or players, and publishing it would have caught them out as liars.</p><p></p><p>The memo (or series of memos) were ALL to do with the administration of SARU; in particular, the assessment criteria and standards they were using in assessing their referees. This was 1999, and South African rugby had only been back in the world rugby community for five years after their long isolation. SARU were still using referee assessment methods that other nations had abandoned in the 1980's. SARU were exhibiting a fair amount of intransigence in not changing their assessment methods to coincide with that of their SANZAR partners, which both the NZRU and ARU considered necessary in order to ensure consistent refereeing across the whole Super 12 competition. </p><p></p><p>The emails in question were between the Keith Lawrence and his ARU counterpart (Peter Marshall?). They contained references to keeping SARU in the dark regarding administrative and other decisions, including the non-appointment of South African referees to major Super 12 matches. It was Lawrence's idea for the NZRU and ARU to block appointments to major matches in order to force SARU's hand. Lawrence was frustrated with his SARU counterpart, Freek Burger, who refused to budge, and some of that frustration boiled over into the e-mail.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 738331, member: 20605"] Stormer, you are completely misrepresenting the meaning of that memo and conflating two separate issues. I get tired of hearing this old chestnut being dragged up as some kind of "proof" of some imagined conspiracy against the Springboks. Its just complete and utter BS. The actual phrase used was NOT [I]"lets get the Japies"[/I], it was [I]"lets teach those Japies a lesson"[/I]. While that phrasing in the memo was totally inappropriate, it was blown out of all proportion by the South African media, who frankly, stoked up the fires and flat out lied to the South African public. There is a reason why their media never published the whole actual memo; because it had absolutely NOTHING to do with a conspiracy to do some crooked refereeing with regards to the South African rugby team or players, and publishing it would have caught them out as liars. The memo (or series of memos) were ALL to do with the administration of SARU; in particular, the assessment criteria and standards they were using in assessing their referees. This was 1999, and South African rugby had only been back in the world rugby community for five years after their long isolation. SARU were still using referee assessment methods that other nations had abandoned in the 1980's. SARU were exhibiting a fair amount of intransigence in not changing their assessment methods to coincide with that of their SANZAR partners, which both the NZRU and ARU considered necessary in order to ensure consistent refereeing across the whole Super 12 competition. The emails in question were between the Keith Lawrence and his ARU counterpart (Peter Marshall?). They contained references to keeping SARU in the dark regarding administrative and other decisions, including the non-appointment of South African referees to major Super 12 matches. It was Lawrence's idea for the NZRU and ARU to block appointments to major matches in order to force SARU's hand. Lawrence was frustrated with his SARU counterpart, Freek Burger, who refused to budge, and some of that frustration boiled over into the e-mail. [/QUOTE]
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