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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 738077" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>In 2013 Argentina actually formally complained to IRB about Owens after their defeat to Australia in Perth. That referee performance in a 1 pt game barely got any publicity and nobody really cared. It's only when a major team loses like the All Blacks, South Africa, France, Ireland, England, Australia etc that a major media fuss gets kicked up.</p><p></p><p>There will be little social media backlash and anger towards a ref is say, Romania get poor decisions against them at RWC, there will be loads if say France or England do. That to me just leads to a culture and environment around referees to lean towards the expected pre-match established favourite.</p><p></p><p>In 2011, Bryce Lawrence now says the ARU and John O'Neill were 'kicking up a massive stink' behind the scenes after they lost to Ireland, and put him under pressure and affected him in the biggest match of his career. There's an atmosphere in World Rugby, that if you pîss off one of the major players with influence backstage you're put under severe pressure and career at risk. Lawrence (already a poor ref in my view) was effected by ARU in 2011, and completely messed up as a result.</p><p></p><p>Do you think any ref at RWC 2015 will dare make tough decisions against England during the pool stages? With WR already tweeting it would be a disaster if they went out early, and England carrying much influence backstage, and having the following to create a social media backlash.</p><p></p><p>The wider issue as a whole though rather than necessarily bias, is that the entire elite refereeing panel is shìt, mostly in two areas, firstly the scrum/maul, secondly the breakdown. They simply don't seem to understand those two areas and how they work. This current generation of referees is useless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 738077, member: 48703"] In 2013 Argentina actually formally complained to IRB about Owens after their defeat to Australia in Perth. That referee performance in a 1 pt game barely got any publicity and nobody really cared. It's only when a major team loses like the All Blacks, South Africa, France, Ireland, England, Australia etc that a major media fuss gets kicked up. There will be little social media backlash and anger towards a ref is say, Romania get poor decisions against them at RWC, there will be loads if say France or England do. That to me just leads to a culture and environment around referees to lean towards the expected pre-match established favourite. In 2011, Bryce Lawrence now says the ARU and John O'Neill were 'kicking up a massive stink' behind the scenes after they lost to Ireland, and put him under pressure and affected him in the biggest match of his career. There's an atmosphere in World Rugby, that if you pîss off one of the major players with influence backstage you're put under severe pressure and career at risk. Lawrence (already a poor ref in my view) was effected by ARU in 2011, and completely messed up as a result. Do you think any ref at RWC 2015 will dare make tough decisions against England during the pool stages? With WR already tweeting it would be a disaster if they went out early, and England carrying much influence backstage, and having the following to create a social media backlash. The wider issue as a whole though rather than necessarily bias, is that the entire elite refereeing panel is shìt, mostly in two areas, firstly the scrum/maul, secondly the breakdown. They simply don't seem to understand those two areas and how they work. This current generation of referees is useless. [/QUOTE]
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