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RBS 6 Nations - England vs Wales - 25/02/2012, 16:00
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<blockquote data-quote="dullonien" data-source="post: 485189" data-attributes="member: 13739"><p>My point was and always has been that 3m was all that England needed to advance in order to score a try, so I don't understand people bringing up that argument here. I have no problem with people believing that he should have come back, because ref's often do, but please don't use the argument that they only gained 3m where normally that would be brought back in another area of the pitch.</p><p></p><p>I think Coonor has put it much better than I have. Ultimately, many people here believe that the only correct outcome here would have been if England scored some points. Not sure I agree with that at all. England correctly went for, and Strettle was judged to have not grounded the ball.</p><p></p><p>I'm not only saying this because it's England, and because it enabled us to win. I feel the same no matter what the circumstance. I don't agree with ref's calling play back because a player has knocked the ball on with the try-line at his mercy, that's just tough luck, the advantage was there to be taken. It's all part of the same thing, and in every case some ref's call advantage over quickly after a relatively small tactical or positional advantage, and other's seem to play advantage for an age and pull play back for an infringement half the crowd has already forgotten what for.</p><p></p><p>The advantage rule is a good one, but it shouldn't be abused by ref's. Here I feel Walsh made the correct call. I'm a little more in two minds about Laidlaw's non-try because he simply put in a speculative kick that almost came off (i.e. didn't have the ball in his hands going over the try-line), but ultimately he Laidlaw chanced his arm which came within a wisker of coming off, so he's gotta also live with the fact that it was deemed advantage over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dullonien, post: 485189, member: 13739"] My point was and always has been that 3m was all that England needed to advance in order to score a try, so I don't understand people bringing up that argument here. I have no problem with people believing that he should have come back, because ref's often do, but please don't use the argument that they only gained 3m where normally that would be brought back in another area of the pitch. I think Coonor has put it much better than I have. Ultimately, many people here believe that the only correct outcome here would have been if England scored some points. Not sure I agree with that at all. England correctly went for, and Strettle was judged to have not grounded the ball. I'm not only saying this because it's England, and because it enabled us to win. I feel the same no matter what the circumstance. I don't agree with ref's calling play back because a player has knocked the ball on with the try-line at his mercy, that's just tough luck, the advantage was there to be taken. It's all part of the same thing, and in every case some ref's call advantage over quickly after a relatively small tactical or positional advantage, and other's seem to play advantage for an age and pull play back for an infringement half the crowd has already forgotten what for. The advantage rule is a good one, but it shouldn't be abused by ref's. Here I feel Walsh made the correct call. I'm a little more in two minds about Laidlaw's non-try because he simply put in a speculative kick that almost came off (i.e. didn't have the ball in his hands going over the try-line), but ultimately he Laidlaw chanced his arm which came within a wisker of coming off, so he's gotta also live with the fact that it was deemed advantage over. [/QUOTE]
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