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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Phlegm &amp; Poise" data-source="post: 350674" data-attributes="member: 42637">^ I thought 'the Beast' got very lucky with the ref in that first test, it is a shame that it is one of people's memories of Vickery as he offered a lot more class than that across his career. Not many have played in two RWC finals, but it is his character which sets him above most. Even though he was flagging towards the end with the injuries, etc, I'd still have put in somewhere in the England set-up (certainly ahead of bleddy Tim Payne in the pecking order anyway!)."In the top 5 tightheads of the 00s...". Who'd go ahead of him then? Genuine question. I used to love Woodman and Vickery in the front row. Where's all the cornish beef gotten to these days?</blockquote>