Pro 2 Day 7

[Tony Manx]

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Albi v Béziers
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7:00 p.m.
SAT 11.10

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Stade Aurillac v Massy
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7:00 p.m.
SAT 11.10

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Mont-de-Marsan v Bourgoin
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3:00 p.m.
SAT 11.10


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Narbonne v Section Paloise

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7:00 p.m.
SAT 11.10

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Tarbes v SU Agen
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7:00 p.m.
SAT 11.10


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Biarritz Olympique v US Dax

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3:00 p.m.
SUN 12.10

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Carcassonne v Perpignan
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5:00 p.m.
SUN 12.10


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Colomiers v Montauban

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3:00 p.m.
SUN 12.10

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[gaston le gaff]

could be a win for BO. HOPEFULLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15.00 ko whats all that about, Serge on a diet and abstaines from lunch, this is serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tony Manx]

could be a win for BO. HOPEFULLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15.00 ko whats all that about, Serge on a diet and abstaines from lunch, this is serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Budda not eating? You have to be seriously joking!!! He will have a Brunch at his Chateau Brindos from which even he could walk to Aguillera given the time!!!

 

[gaston le gaff]

Budda not eating? You have to be seriously joking!!! He will have a Brunch at his Chateau Brindos from which even he could walk to Aguillera given the time!!!

WADDLE maybe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tony Manx]

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[TD="class: day no-repetition"]Sat[/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"]11/10/14[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a, align: right"]Tarbes[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]20 - 25[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b strong"]SU Agen[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd match no-date-repetition"]
[TD="class: day no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a, align: right"]SC Albigeois[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]23 - 27[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b strong"]AS Béziers[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even match no-date-repetition"]
[TD="class: day no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a, align: right"]RC Narbonne[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]11 - 36[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b strong"]Section Paloise[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd match no-date-repetition"]
[TD="class: day no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a strong, align: right"]Stade Montois[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]22 - 6[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b"]Bourgoin[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even match no-date-repetition"]
[TD="class: day no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a strong, align: right"]Aurillac[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]48 - 17[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b"]Massy[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd match no-date-repetition"]
[TD="class: day no-repetition"]Sun[/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"]12/10/14[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a strong, align: right"]US Colomiers[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]27 - 14[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b"]Montauban[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even match no-date-repetition"]
[TD="class: day no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a strong, align: right"]Biarritz[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]24 - 17[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b"]US Dax[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd match no-date-repetition"]
[TD="class: day no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: date no-repetition"][/TD]
[TD="class: team team-a strong, align: right"]US Carcassonne[/TD]
[TD="class: score-time score"]42 - 20[/TD]
[TD="class: team team-b"]Perpignan[/TD]
[TD="class: events-button button"][/TD]
[TD="class: info-button button"][/TD]
[/TR]
</tbody>[/TABLE]

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[TH="class: number points pct sortcol, align: center"]<acronym ***le="Points" style="border: 0px; cursor: help;">P</acronym>[/TH]
[TH="class: form sortcol, align: center"]Last 5 matches[/TH]
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[TD="class: rank rank-dark-green, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Section Paloise[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]179[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]96[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+83[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]30[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WWWWW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank rank-light-blue, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]AS Béziers[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]165[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]133[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+32[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]21[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WWWLL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: rank rank-light-blue, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Perpignan[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]175[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]149[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+26[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LWWLL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank rank-light-blue, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Stade Montois[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]162[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]135[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+27[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]19[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WLWWL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: rank rank-light-blue, align: center"]5[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]SC Albigeois[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]166[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]157[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+9[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LLLWW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]6[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]US Carcassonne[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]158[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]149[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+9[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]18[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WWLWL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]SU Agen[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]194[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]164[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+30[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WWLWL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Biarritz[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]159[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]138[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+21[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WLWLW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Aurillac[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]132[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]132[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]+0[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WLWDW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Montauban[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]126[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]143[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]-17[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LWLWL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Tarbes[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="class: number total gf total_gf sf total_sf, align: center"]168[/TD]
[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]221[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]-53[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LLLWW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]US Colomiers[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]4[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]162[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]-30[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]WLLLW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]13[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Massy[/TD]
[TD="class: number total mp, align: center"]7[/TD]
[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]5[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]198[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]-44[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LWWLL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank, align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]US Dax[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]139[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]-12[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LWLLL[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: odd"]
[TD="class: rank rank-red, align: center"]15[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]RC Narbonne[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="class: number total draw total_draw, align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="class: number total lost total_lost, align: center"]5[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]190[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]-58[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]9[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LLWLW[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR="class: even"]
[TD="class: rank rank-red, align: center"]16[/TD]
[TD="class: text team large-link"]Bourgoin[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total won total_won, align: center"]2[/TD]
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[TD="class: number total ga total_ga sa total_sa, align: center"]174[/TD]
[TD="class: number gd sd, align: center"]-23[/TD]
[TD="class: number points pct, align: center"]8[/TD]
[TD="class: form, align: center"]LLLDW[/TD]
[/TR]
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[Tony Manx]

Just seen the highlights of the BO v Dax match (http://www.lnr.fr/videos-canal-pro-d2.html) and it is very difficult to see what really happened from this but one thing was clear, BO were playing against 14 men for 30 minutes but then had Placines rightly sent off for a headbutt.

The scrum looked under pressure, Waenga made the first try beautifully, the first Dax try was a clear knock on if the TMO had been asked to vew it, and BO disintegrated in the second half to the extent that they only won with a try in injury time.

Not convincing but only a bonus point win against USAP at the end of the month off second place................!!!!

Interestingly, in the Narbonne v Pau (without doubt the team for automatic promotion barring injuries), they had assistant referees in the goal areas? I wonder if this is in place of TMO or a new experiment?

 

[usap dessie]

Thanks Tony , I do read this thread every week , i'm usually just too devastated to get involved ......I do understand USAP have bad injuries but the lack of fight , unforgivable . Where is the fight from Clermont away last game of the season last year !

 

[gaston le gaff]

Just seen the highlights of the BO v Dax match (http://www.lnr.fr/videos-canal-pro-d2.html) and it is very difficult to see what really happened from this but one thing was clear, BO were playing against 14 men for 30 minutes but then had Placines rightly sent off for a headbutt.

The scrum looked under pressure, Waenga made the first try beautifully, the first Dax try was a clear knock on if the TMO had been asked to vew it, and BO disintegrated in the second half to the extent that they only won with a try in injury time.

Not convincing but only a bonus point win against USAP at the end of the month off second place................!!!!

Interestingly, in the Narbonne v Pau (without doubt the team for automatic promotion barring injuries), they had assistant referees in the goal areas? I wonder if this is in place of TMO or a new experiment?

the answer to your question.............the assistants in the goal area are there to give a hand to the ref on try scoring situations, this is in fact insteaD of a TMO, as it does not happen in the Pro D2, this has been going on for a while maybe 3 seasons or more not sure. Probably the only Pro D2 teams who have sceens are the ones that have suffered relegation. so not that many screens in the PRO D2, it's something that actually works well as the guys have only that to watch so the answers are rapid and the game flows much beter than in the TOP 14 where there are endless screenings and long awaited decisions from the TMO.

 

[Tony Manx]

the answer to your question.............the assistants in the goal area are there to give a hand to the ref on try scoring situations, this is in fact insteaD of a TMO, as it does not happen in the Pro D2, this has been going on for a while maybe 3 seasons or more not sure. Probably the only Pro D2 teams who have sceens are the ones that have suffered relegation. so not that many screens in the PRO D2, it's something that actually works well as the guys have only that to watch so the answers are rapid and the game flows much beter than in the TOP 14 where there are endless screenings and long awaited decisions from the TMO.

So what you are saying is that no it is not an experiment but yes it would be better than dreadful time taken by the TMO!!

 

[gaston le gaff]

yes it is not an experiment as it has been going on for at least 3 seasons, good or bad that is a different story, the decision is quicker thats for sure, but the supporters see nothing there is no screen replay just a yes or no to the assistant in the goal area. I have a screen to look at all match if i want too but the supporters have nothing in the Pro D2 so its difficult to decide which is the better as both have positives and negatives. Depends on which side you are looking at it from!!!!

 

[Tony Manx]

yes it is not an experiment as it has been going on for at least 3 seasons, good or bad that is a different story, the decision is quicker thats for sure, but the supporters see nothing there is no screen replay just a yes or no to the assistant in the goal area. I have a screen to look at all match if i want too but the supporters have nothing in the Pro D2 so its difficult to decide which is the better as both have positives and negatives. Depends on which side you are looking at it from!!!!

Is it not the case that the TV replays for the TMO are not available to the crowd at Top 14 games who are generally faced with a screen saying TMO review in progress?

They certainly are not in Aguillera so there is no difference for the spectator surely?!

The case for the in goal officials cannot really be made. other than where there is no TV coverage, as a TMO is needed inm any case for all other aspects of play outside the in goal area and even with them there are many times they cannot possibly be absolutely right as they do not have all the angles that you a TMO normally gets.

 

[gaston le gaff]

dont see where you are coming from there no is tmo in ther Pro D2 so this is the only visual help the ref gets along with his 2assistants on the touch line. of course they see it as it happens and there are no replays but 5 pairs of eyes are surely better than 3 pairs!!! if you remember this only concerns the Pro D2 not the TOP 14!! dont want to mentipon it but Aguillera is not TOP 14 ANYMORE SORRY!!!

 

[Tony Manx]

dont see where you are coming from there no is tmo in ther Pro D2 so this is the only visual help the ref gets along with his 2assistants on the touch line. of course they see it as it happens and there are no replays but 5 pairs of eyes are surely better than 3 pairs!!! if you remember this only concerns the Pro D2 not the TOP 14!! dont want to mentipon it but Aguillera is not TOP 14 ANYMORE SORRY!!!

I was referriing to a general case for and against goal assistants throughout rugby rather than just for Pro 2 and previous seasons for BO when they were in the Top 14 where no reviews were shown in the ground! I have not been to Aguilera this season........

 

[gaston le gaff]

the problem is as per usual money, screens TMO's etc all have to be paid for while some clubs can afford lots can't, especially those who come up from Fed 1, now the supporters see more as the ref now watches the replay on the screen while listening to what the TMO has to say, but its very time consuming and breaks up the game, the only thing is with the screen and TMO the chances are fairly good at getting the right answer, as with the assistants still difficult to be absolutely certain, but its a much cheaper and quicker option right or wrong.