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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nickdnz" data-source="post: 400457" data-attributes="member: 38640">Hmm. I'm of two minds about this. Does a shove warrent punches? Probably not. I've been shoved many times, and most of them lead to nothing, maybe grabbing his shirt or what ever. But there are times when a players does do things to you, that warren you decking him. If a player stomps on me, gouges me or punches me, I'll almost always have a go, for the simple reason that you came to play a game of rugby, and not to get stomped, gouged or punched. Ashton should not have shoved Tuilagi, and if he did he should have known what he was getting in to. No point in acting like a victim if you end up getting hurt after starting something.</blockquote>