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<blockquote data-quote="Melhor Time" data-source="post: 133403"><p>Shtove</p><p></p><p>I am sorry to say this, but after reading your respone you are more ignorant the people I was initially replying to. </p><p></p><p>Your post is guess work, intentially written to talk down one teams chances in favour of another. You are clearly one eyed. Its not objective let alone informed. </p><p></p><p>For instance you think Pichot is 'not a winner'. Have you not seen him captain Argentina to wins over England, France, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Italy? Have you not seen him captain Stade Français to the French championship. </p><p></p><p>Saying Hernández 'is a guy who hasn't done much' is not a very good way of making a point. Have you seen him play? He was voted World Player of the Year in France. He is outstanding. He has won two ***les for Paris, he has been integral in wins over higher ranked countries. If you think he needs to have international trophies in the cabinet then please tell me how this is possible when Argentina don't play in the 6N or 3N. </p><p></p><p>These Irish backs you keeps talking about haven't scored tries agaisnt Argentina so why will it be any different this year? Ireland will pick 6 of the same 7 backs from the 2003 team. They will pick the same backs from the 2004 match. Argentina, though, will pick better backs. </p><p></p><p>You are basing your prediction of Ireland on the tries they scored against England and Italy. Argentina defeated both teams less than a year ago and did you with vastly different lineups. Wales vs Ireland and Scotland vs Ireland in the 6N were not good games at all. Ireland didn't score tries in these games. They won close games off goal kicking. Interesting since Argentina are better than both. Scotland haven't beaten Argentina since 1990 and Wales got destroyed in June 2006 in Buenos Aires by Argentina. The scoreline was lot different to wins Ireland ahs recorded over Wales in the same time. </p><p></p><p>Ireland lost to France in the 6N. Argentina are better against France than Ireland. Ireland don't win in France and hardly ever win against France at all. Argentina on the other hand have won 4 of the past 5 games agaisnt France and the only loss was by 1 point. Compare this to the various matches in which Ireland have been well beaten. 2006 for instance. France, experiementing with players, won agaisnt a full strength Irish team minus O'Driscoll this year. Certainly there is plenty of room to doubt Ireland chances. </p><p></p><p>Incase you forgot, Ireland don't score tries against Argentina. They kick goals. The 2003 team actually lost the World Cup match. Ireland gave awayu a penalty at the end of the game which the ref didn't award.... Again I have covered all the games between the two sides. They are very even and far from seeing 'Ireland dominate'. The smart money is on a narrow win to Argentina. I aren't from Argentina either.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Melhor Time, post: 133403"] Shtove I am sorry to say this, but after reading your respone you are more ignorant the people I was initially replying to. Your post is guess work, intentially written to talk down one teams chances in favour of another. You are clearly one eyed. Its not objective let alone informed. For instance you think Pichot is 'not a winner'. Have you not seen him captain Argentina to wins over England, France, Ireland, Wales, Scotland and Italy? Have you not seen him captain Stade Français to the French championship. Saying Hernández 'is a guy who hasn't done much' is not a very good way of making a point. Have you seen him play? He was voted World Player of the Year in France. He is outstanding. He has won two ***les for Paris, he has been integral in wins over higher ranked countries. If you think he needs to have international trophies in the cabinet then please tell me how this is possible when Argentina don't play in the 6N or 3N. These Irish backs you keeps talking about haven't scored tries agaisnt Argentina so why will it be any different this year? Ireland will pick 6 of the same 7 backs from the 2003 team. They will pick the same backs from the 2004 match. Argentina, though, will pick better backs. You are basing your prediction of Ireland on the tries they scored against England and Italy. Argentina defeated both teams less than a year ago and did you with vastly different lineups. Wales vs Ireland and Scotland vs Ireland in the 6N were not good games at all. Ireland didn't score tries in these games. They won close games off goal kicking. Interesting since Argentina are better than both. Scotland haven't beaten Argentina since 1990 and Wales got destroyed in June 2006 in Buenos Aires by Argentina. The scoreline was lot different to wins Ireland ahs recorded over Wales in the same time. Ireland lost to France in the 6N. Argentina are better against France than Ireland. Ireland don't win in France and hardly ever win against France at all. Argentina on the other hand have won 4 of the past 5 games agaisnt France and the only loss was by 1 point. Compare this to the various matches in which Ireland have been well beaten. 2006 for instance. France, experiementing with players, won agaisnt a full strength Irish team minus O'Driscoll this year. Certainly there is plenty of room to doubt Ireland chances. Incase you forgot, Ireland don't score tries against Argentina. They kick goals. The 2003 team actually lost the World Cup match. Ireland gave awayu a penalty at the end of the game which the ref didn't award.... Again I have covered all the games between the two sides. They are very even and far from seeing 'Ireland dominate'. The smart money is on a narrow win to Argentina. I aren't from Argentina either..... [/QUOTE]
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