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I'm new here and I just started to get really into rugby. I play American football but after some of their changes in the rules the past few years I probably want to play professionally in rugby now so I have some questions

1 which is more popular worldwide rugby union or league?

2 what kind of training do you need to do like it seems to me rugby is about endurance rather than short spurts of power so do I have to run like 5 miles a day or something?

3 are their any super elite players who I need to watch like the lebron James of rugby someone who's considered one of the greatest

4 how do you get on a team in rugby union or league do you try out?

5 how many games are there in a season?

6 what are the most important rules in rugby?

thanks
 
I'm new here and I just started to get really into rugby. I play American football but after some of their changes in the rules the past few years I probably want to play professionally in rugby now so I have some questions

1 which is more popular worldwide rugby union or league?

2 what kind of training do you need to do like it seems to me rugby is about endurance rather than short spurts of power so do I have to run like 5 miles a day or something?

3 are their any super elite players who I need to watch like the lebron James of rugby someone who's considered one of the greatest

4 how do you get on a team in rugby union or league do you try out?

5 how many games are there in a season?

6 what are the most important rules in rugby?

thanks

1. Union is more popular.

2. All-round fitness is needed for rugby. Most stuff is short bursts but it's short bursts for 80 minutes. Should be more information here http://www.rfu.com/takingpart/fitness

3. There are of course a number of brilliant players but it depends what position you want to play and what type of player you are for role models.

4. Depends on the team. Most you just go along and join the team, train with them and they'll pick you if they think you're good enough.

5. Again depends as in is your team in a league etc. No idea what the story is for American teams.

6. I don't want to give you a migrane. I can't really say one rule above all else. Browse at your leisure http://www.irblaws.com/index.php?language=EN
 
I'm new here and I just started to get really into rugby. I play American football but after some of their changes in the rules the past few years I probably want to play professionally in rugby now so I have some questions

1 which is more popular worldwide rugby union or league?

2 what kind of training do you need to do like it seems to me rugby is about endurance rather than short spurts of power so do I have to run like 5 miles a day or something?

3 are their any super elite players who I need to watch like the lebron James of rugby someone who's considered one of the greatest

4 how do you get on a team in rugby union or league do you try out?

5 how many games are there in a season?

6 what are the most important rules in rugby?

thanks

1. Union

2. Both are very important if you join a team they'll be able to tell you what you need.

3. It depends what position you'd like to play, If you look up Dan Carter, Richie McCaw and Brian O'Driscoll on youtube you'd get a good array of skills and you'd also have a lot of links for other great players.

4. Just join a club go to training, they'd be more than happy to have players at any level.

5. Depends really about 20-30.

6. Don't pass the ball forward, don't hold the ball on the ground, don't tackle above the neck, you'll pick them up quickly once you start playing.

Good luck and feel free to ask more questions.

Welcome to the forum. :D
 
I'm new here and I just started to get really into rugby. I play American football but after some of their changes in the rules the past few years I probably want to play professionally in rugby now so I have some questions

Firstly, welcome! Nice to have another rugby fan in the States! :) I can sort of answer some of your questions, but I'm just a fan, never played the game, and so my knowledge is limited in some areas. But I'll try to answer the ones I know from an American standpoint.

1 which is more popular worldwide rugby union or league?

I would say Union. Union is the classic form of the game, and League an offshoot that evolved over time into something different. I think with Rugby 7s added to the Olympics, and with more interest in the Union game in the States, that's the way to go. But also see what opportunities there are in your area - there may be league clubs, but no union. You'll have to do some checking.

2 what kind of training do you need to do like it seems to me rugby is about endurance rather than short spurts of power so do I have to run like 5 miles a day or something?

I'll let the guys answer this one. :)

3 are their any super elite players who I need to watch like the lebron James of rugby someone who's considered one of the greatest

Sure, plenty. Again, the guys can name names better than I can. I would suggest watching modern players as opposed to some of the icons of old, mostly because the [union] game has evolved somewhat since going pro.

4 how do you get on a team in rugby union or league do you try out?

Not sure about this. I know some guys play rugby in college. In our area (NJ) a youth rugby team has recently been started (not sure if it's league or union - I know we have both in the area). There are several clubs around, too. Sometimes just googling rugby and your state or town will bring up local clubs. However, I am not sure how one goes about joining - I think it's pretty much by asking, 'hey, can I join and learn me some rugby?!'

5 how many games are there in a season?

All depends. Some local clubs only have 6 matches at a time - 6 in the spring, 6 in the fall. But I think that depends on locality.

Keep in mind I have no idea how one advances in the States from 'boy, I think I'd like to play rugby' to getting on a club from which internationals are picked for the Eagles.

6 what are the most important rules in rugby?

Roll away!!!! :D As I understand it, rugby has the second greatest amount of rules, or laws, behind cricket. I would say the basics are (keeping in mind your experience in American football) - no forward passes, no tackling or blocking of anyone but the ball carrier, no shoulder charges - all things allowed in football. Also, the ball must be grounded for the score (try) to count, and you can kick the ball forward to advance play. Oh, and when a player is tackled (or off his feet for any reason) he is considered out of play, and therefore cannot handle the ball, he must release it so others can play it and continue the game. I wouldn't say those are the most important rules, but they are the basic ones to understand the game when watching it.

Hope that helps a little. The guys can correct anything I've said wrong. :)


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I'm new here and I just started to get really into rugby. I play American football but after some of their changes in the rules the past few years I probably want to play professionally in rugby now so I have some questions

1 which is more popular worldwide rugby union or league?

2 what kind of training do you need to do like it seems to me rugby is about endurance rather than short spurts of power so do I have to run like 5 miles a day or something?

3 are their any super elite players who I need to watch like the lebron James of rugby someone who's considered one of the greatest

4 how do you get on a team in rugby union or league do you try out?

5 how many games are there in a season?

6 what are the most important rules in rugby?

thanks

Hi, you've picked a great sport to start getting into! I've been trying to get into American football recently because one of my housemates is obsessed with it. Still not completely grasping all the rules though!

1. Union is more popular. In England and Wales, league is more popular up north, with teams like Wigan and Bradford. But most Union teams come from the south.

2. Not entirely sure about this one tbh because I've never properly played the sport in a team. But I've read/seen different training regimes that teams go through. Some teams do things like endurance training on sand dunes and stuff like that. I've heard of the New Zealand team using a weighted ball or a tennis ball to practice passing accuracy or passing strength.

3. There are plenty of players you can google or watch on youtube. Just to name a few greats: Jason Robinson, Brian O'Driscoll, Shane Williams, Richie McCaw, Martin Johnson, Gareth Edwards, Dan Carter, Jonah Lomu

4. You can join teams at different levels of experience, and it also depends quite a lot on where you live. For example, in Sheffield there is very little in the way of Union teams to join, just because it is not a popular sport up here.

5. Like other people have said, this depends on the team/league. The team I support, Ospreys, have played 18 games and have 4 left (end in May) - but depending on whether they finish in the top 4 in the league they may play in the league play-offs.

6. Sooo many rules. But things like you're not allowed to tackle high (around the head area), offside rules, you have to be on your feet when competing for the ball at a ruck, you have to roll away once you've tackled someone and brought them to ground, you're not allowed to enter the side of a ruck, knock ons, etc. I'd advise taking a good look at the IRB rules. Their pretty easy to read and navigate.
 
I'm new here and I just started to get really into rugby. I play American football but after some of their changes in the rules the past few years I probably want to play professionally in rugby now so I have some questions

1 which is more popular worldwide rugby union or league?

2 what kind of training do you need to do like it seems to me rugby is about endurance rather than short spurts of power so do I have to run like 5 miles a day or something?

3 are their any super elite players who I need to watch like the lebron James of rugby someone who's considered one of the greatest

4 how do you get on a team in rugby union or league do you try out?

5 how many games are there in a season?

6 what are the most important rules in rugby?

thanks

1. Rugby Union by quite some margin. Only a handful of countries compete at a reasonable level in League - with Australia, New Zealand and England the three countries which compete the the highest international level consistently. Australia are consistently the best team by far, however New Zealand is currently the Rugby League World Champions.

In Rugby Union - there are more professional competitions (one may soon be starting up in the U.S) - with At least 10 international teams playing in the highest of two competitions - New Zealand, South Africa, Australia and Argentina (The Rugby Championship) and England, Wales, France, Scotland, Italy, Ireland (The 6 Nations). Internationally there are other important competitions such as The Pacific Nations Cup which include U.S.A, Canada, Japan, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji - as well as the European Nations Cup Division 1 which currently feature Georgia, Romania, Spain, Belgium, Russia and Portugal.

In terms of club competitions - the main ones are Super Rugby (which currently feature 15 teams - consisting of five teams in three conferences of New Zealand, South Africa and Australia). Aviva Premiership (England's domestic league which consists of 12 English clubs), Top 14 (France's domestic competition which consists of 14 French Clubs), Rabo Pro 12 (A league which consists of four Irish clubs, four Welsh clubs, two Scottish clubs and two Italian clubs), Japan Pro League (Japan's domestic league). The English Premiership, Top 14, Pro 12 compete in several cross competitions, most notably the Heineken Cup which is like a European Club Championship. There are also professional leagues in Georgia and Russia - however they are not as big as the others.

2. Training in rugby in a general sense, fitness is important. Different positions require different attributes however. The most generic attributes which help are skills training (so learning to catch, pass, tackle - compete in rucks), fitness and core work. However there are more important things when it comes to different positions. If you are especially strong and big you may be suited to play in the front row in which scrummaging is very important (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AnEYJSY7x8). If you're very tall and a good jumper you may be suited to being a lock who gets lifted in lineouts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCQfggoUSNU). If you are especially quck/very good passer and kicker you may be suited to the backs.

It's worth noting the positions are usually split into two groups: forwards: Whose important jobs is to do hard work close to rucks - so make a lot of tackles, scrums, lineouts etc (these positions are given the numbers 1-8) - in addition to tackling, carrying the ball etc - each player has specialist duties as part of his position).
1. Loosehead Prop - Scrums on the loosehead side (so has left arm free from the scrum).
2. Hooker - Throws in lineouts and 'hooks' the ball with his feet from the centre of the scrum.
3. Tighthead Prop - scrums on the tight side of the scrum (so has no arms free)
4. Lock - Jumps in lineouts and pushes in the second row of the scrum (the props and hookers are called the front row).
5. Lock - Jumps in lineouts and pushes in the second row of the scrum (the props and hookers are called the front row).
6. Blindside Flanker - Defends the most narrow side of the field.
7. Openside - Defends the most open side of the field
8. Number 8 - Links with backline. Packs at the back of the scrum. (6, 7 and 8 are known as 'loose forwards' and their jobs are primarily to contest the ball in a ruck)

In the backs there are an additional seven players.
9. Halfback - clears ball from the ruck
10. Fly Half - Directs play similar to a QB in American Football. Has to be a good kicker and passer. Usually kicks goals but not always. (9 and 10 are known as halfs)
11. Left Wing - Should be quickest players on the field.
12. Inside Center - Second reciever behind the flyhalf.
13. Centre - Should be a very good passer, creates space for outside backs (12 and 13 are called 'inside backs)
14. Right Wing - Should be quickest players on the field.
15. Fullback - Defends from the back. Should be a good kicker and quick. (11, 14 and 15 are knwon as outside backs).

Each position has different training requirements specific to their role. Importantly though, fitness and core training as well as general skills are vital to all positions.

3. There are players like that, yes. Each position has different examples. The biggest athletic freak and legend in rugby is probably Jonah Lomu (a left winger) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n2weoYjNNs) who played top level rugby from 1994-2006. Another is Christian Cullen (fullback) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0945lQKP7I) who played from 1995-2006. Those are some outside backs that made me want to play rugby as a kid. Players generally regarded as the best in the world (not necessarly in the best form anymore - but are playing legends) Daniel Carter (NZ), Richie McCaw (NZ), Kieran Read (NZ), Bryan O'Driscoll (Ireland), Johnny Wilkinson (England) etc.

4. As others have mentioned - playing for a local club you usually register with them, train with them and then they will give you a run on. If you play well enough you make the starting team. From there to get any kid of professional contract you have to stand out in the domestic league. If you're good enough USA may select you and depending whether or not the USA pro league kicks off or not - you would have to travel off shore to play professionally.

5. Depends on the league. In my club compeition there is around 20 games a season. In pro leagues, Japan Pro League has 12 games a season, Super Rugby has around 18 games (with other domestic competitions such as NZ's ITM Cup or South Africa's Currie Cup having slightly fewer games) a season and some European teams have nearly 40 games a season. I'd imagin in the USA there would be around 15-20 games a season.

6. Hard to select only a few. You can't pass the ball forward or knock it forward. That results in a scrum. Have to release a ball when tackled. Can't be offside (when a ruck has formed you have to be behind your side of the ruck). There are lots - others have posted useful links to the IRB offical rule book which is certinaly worth a look.

Good luck getting into rugby! It's a great game.
 
1 which is more popular worldwide rugby union or league?
well, it's a relative reality. After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...I'd say they're both exactly as popular.

2 what kind of training do you need to do like it seems to me rugby is about endurance rather than short spurts of power so do I have to run like 5 miles a day or something?
A lot of rituals. Deep breathing exercises. Meditative contemplation, finding your center. Gardening helps a lot in that regard.

3 are their any super elite players who I need to watch like the lebron James of rugby someone who's considered one of the greatest
No. Rugby is based on the principle of team work and humility, and one superstar separating from the rest would have to be burnt alive for heresy. But Lebron James himself would make one hell of a rugby player himself...as a center...or a prop...

4 how do you get on a team in rugby union or league do you try out?
no you don't try out. You have to kill a shark with your bare hands, or a sloth, thus proving you truly are a man. I'm pretty sure that's the criteria, someone correct me please if I've confused this with something else.

5 how many games are there in a season?
We're not aloud to say. You must find out on your own and never reveal the secret to anybody else yourself. All the answers given to you on that are to delude you from the truth.

6 what are the most important rules in rugby?
always look behind you as you're rucking or scrummaging, you're never too sure what other guys' intentions are when you're bent over and powerless like that.
don't do things like biting, wet-willying, making out, throwing knockout punches, brutally headbutting other players and get caught. It's a wide and long field, but those refs have eyes everywhere and with all the camera angles these days, very hard to get away with it.
 
6 what are the most important rules in rugby?
Rule 2, subsection 5, Paragraph 3: A player must enter the field of play, or any ruck for that matter, through the gate. unless their surname is McCaw, in which case any rule pertaining to the breakdown is null and void. Players are advised not to leave the gate open at the end of the day.

couldn't help myself :lol:
 

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