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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 580307" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>Lol!</p><p></p><p>SA withdrew from the Commonwealth in 1961 to become a sovereign state. We were no longer a Union, but a Republic. It meant that SA was not bound by the British Empire and had to govern itself without the interference of outside sources. And to stop income from going to the British Crown, and to rather use it to grow infrastructure.</p><p></p><p>In 1990 we didn't have a Constitution, we were still using mostly English and Dutch -Roman law to govern ourselves along with Apartheid regime laws. Most of the Apartheid laws are now unconstitutional and no longer part of our justice system.</p><p></p><p>As for pointing out Soweto and it's sporting infrastructure, it seems you are forgetting the definition of Apartheid, and Afrikaans term meaning Seperation. They had all that infrastructure yet their players couldn't excel or represent their country, as the Apartheid Regime denied them that privelage.</p><p></p><p>As for showing photos of black international stars in our country, what does that prove?? Many White people had a problem with Apartheid during the Apartheid era, but they weren't part of the parliament, or cabinet. They were just normal civilians. Jan Ellis was a sports star, not a political activist. He has the right to appear with other sports stars of any race.</p><p></p><p>Mandela was a political prisoner, and was sent to prison for treason in trying to overthrow the government. Since the end of Apartheid, that government was no longer in power, so there was no reason to keep him prisoner. He was then thus released. He was still a member of the ANC, and was adored by many, and his idea was a great one. With any idea there are fighting first. To achieve your goal there had to be some fighting. Look at the civil war of the US in the 1700's. they didn't want to be part of the British Empire anymore so that they can govern themselves. Look how much bloodshed was there! Not just between the colonists and the brits, but also between the colonists themselves.</p><p></p><p>To compare the 22 000 people who died to that would be a big mistake. It's a very small margin of the big change our country went through and that was a sacrifice most would see as acceptable.</p><p></p><p>To show Australian and US communist laws in a thread that has nothing to do with SA is a bit over the top. And it proves yet again as in many of your other posts, NOTHING!! Rather show the communism act of SA and how it was implemented to get your opinion through...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 580307, member: 40658"] Lol! SA withdrew from the Commonwealth in 1961 to become a sovereign state. We were no longer a Union, but a Republic. It meant that SA was not bound by the British Empire and had to govern itself without the interference of outside sources. And to stop income from going to the British Crown, and to rather use it to grow infrastructure. In 1990 we didn't have a Constitution, we were still using mostly English and Dutch -Roman law to govern ourselves along with Apartheid regime laws. Most of the Apartheid laws are now unconstitutional and no longer part of our justice system. As for pointing out Soweto and it's sporting infrastructure, it seems you are forgetting the definition of Apartheid, and Afrikaans term meaning Seperation. They had all that infrastructure yet their players couldn't excel or represent their country, as the Apartheid Regime denied them that privelage. As for showing photos of black international stars in our country, what does that prove?? Many White people had a problem with Apartheid during the Apartheid era, but they weren't part of the parliament, or cabinet. They were just normal civilians. Jan Ellis was a sports star, not a political activist. He has the right to appear with other sports stars of any race. Mandela was a political prisoner, and was sent to prison for treason in trying to overthrow the government. Since the end of Apartheid, that government was no longer in power, so there was no reason to keep him prisoner. He was then thus released. He was still a member of the ANC, and was adored by many, and his idea was a great one. With any idea there are fighting first. To achieve your goal there had to be some fighting. Look at the civil war of the US in the 1700's. they didn't want to be part of the British Empire anymore so that they can govern themselves. Look how much bloodshed was there! Not just between the colonists and the brits, but also between the colonists themselves. To compare the 22 000 people who died to that would be a big mistake. It's a very small margin of the big change our country went through and that was a sacrifice most would see as acceptable. To show Australian and US communist laws in a thread that has nothing to do with SA is a bit over the top. And it proves yet again as in many of your other posts, NOTHING!! Rather show the communism act of SA and how it was implemented to get your opinion through... [/QUOTE]
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