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Maximiliano Bustos signs for Montpellier - Pumas frontrow looms for 2011-2012
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<blockquote data-quote="Melhor Time" data-source="post: 412068" data-attributes="member: 20116"><p>Looks like Maximilano will be in the World Cup squad as he is in the squad of 39 but Juan Orlandi is not.<strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Feicarsinn</strong></p><p></p><p>Your ideas are great and certainly in the best interests of the Irish national sid e an Leinster. I do, however wonder bout folks in Galway. Connacht is a feeder team. Everything about it is wrong. A small stadium, good players always move to play for the other Irish teams and there is no intention of this changing. If things don´t go well for a few years for Irish rugby then they could be like the Borders. Ireland can certainly have four competitive sides, but not under the existing laws. Connact needs to have better players. Can they be found in Ireland? yes, without question; This, however would mean increased distibution of Irish players and the level of Munster and Leinster would not be as it is today. Thus, all four Irish sides should have more imported players. Pienaar for Ulster was the perfect thing to do. Contepomi for Leinster was too. </p><p></p><p>The only country that has truely grasped pro rugby in the world is France. Coincidently, or not, France is the only team to have been to the semi Finals of every World Cup since the game went pro. The league is easily the biggest on the planet and will be bigger in 2011-2012 with the two new sides being big French cities. Crowds are getting bigger, teams are getting richer and also better. Montpellier finalists was remarkable. Look at the XV from the final - Three players from Argentina, two from Georgia, two from Fiji. Three French international players too. </p><p></p><p>In Australia for instance the teams are never going to be good with the current rules. Going back not to long when there were only 3 sides the teams did much better. Today with five teams only the Melbourne Rebels can import players. The others can but in such a small quantity. The result is that since expansion the sides have dropped in competitiveness. The Western Force? The Melbourne Rebels? Both bad sides in Super Rugby. The Brumbies are a perfect explanation. They have gone from being second to the Crusaders to now being third in Australia and look like nothing compared to the Gregan-Larkham side. The Reds are good again as they´ve stacked themselves with the best Aussie players while other sides are left with few good enough for the RWC. There is a solution and its simple - allow more imported players. Obviously Australia doesn´t produce enough good players for five sides. Similar with Ireland having 4 sides. Two are very good, one good but could be better than the other poor. </p><p></p><p>Also, Tommy Bowe plays in Wales. Does this bother you? </p><p></p><p>One thing that I always tell my Kiwi friends who don´t want All Blacks playing in Europe or Japan and don´t want Pacific Islanders in the Super Rugby teams is sponsorship. The All Blacks are sponsored by foreign companies. il.e. Adidas, Iveco and Ford. The workers (players) have strict rules but we´ll take money from anywhere.... </p><p></p><p><strong>snoopy snoopy dog dog </strong></p><p></p><p>I agree with you about the age. There is another factor overlooked, however. Teams are not going to give the guy on a short term deal game time over the others on long term deals. Galarza played little and didn´t do much for sure but hard for someone to standout when chances are slim. </p><p></p><p>Another example - Chauncey O´Toole for Glasgow. Was on a short term deal due to others being injured and given limted game time. He was much better than the Scottish players from the Warriors but the team wasn´t going to pick him over the guys avaliable since they will be there for the entire season. Possible Emertick with Ulster too. A better player than a number of Ulster players at centre or wing. </p><p></p><p><strong>thomond2006</strong></p><p></p><p>Yes, MartÃn Bustos Moyano is almost certian to make the Los Pumas squad for New Zealand 2011. He is in the squad of 39 players to train in the USA for a two week camp in July. The other players included who play wing or fullback are Horacio Agulla (Leicester), Lucas Borges (Albi) Gonzalo Camacho (Exeter), Rafael Carballo (Union Bordeaux Begles, France), Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino (Montpellier), Juan Imhoff (Duendes R.C) and MartÃn Rodruguez Gurruchaga (Stade Français). </p><p></p><p>Personally I think he´ll be included with the Pumas back 3 vs England to be 11 Agulla, 15 RodrÃguez, 14 Camacho. The other two to make the squad, for me, would be Gonzalez Amorosino and Bustos Moyano. But neither in the match day 22. - I want only two backs on the Pumas bench to enable the selection of two props. </p><p></p><p>See the full list here: <a href="http://rugbyworldcup-argentina2023.blogspot.com/2011/06/40-final-candidates-for-argentina-rugby.html" target="_blank">http://rugbyworldcup-argentina2023.blogspot.com/2011/06/40-final-candidates-for-argentina-rugby.html</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Melhor Time, post: 412068, member: 20116"] Looks like Maximilano will be in the World Cup squad as he is in the squad of 39 but Juan Orlandi is not.[B] Feicarsinn[/B] Your ideas are great and certainly in the best interests of the Irish national sid e an Leinster. I do, however wonder bout folks in Galway. Connacht is a feeder team. Everything about it is wrong. A small stadium, good players always move to play for the other Irish teams and there is no intention of this changing. If things don´t go well for a few years for Irish rugby then they could be like the Borders. Ireland can certainly have four competitive sides, but not under the existing laws. Connact needs to have better players. Can they be found in Ireland? yes, without question; This, however would mean increased distibution of Irish players and the level of Munster and Leinster would not be as it is today. Thus, all four Irish sides should have more imported players. Pienaar for Ulster was the perfect thing to do. Contepomi for Leinster was too. The only country that has truely grasped pro rugby in the world is France. Coincidently, or not, France is the only team to have been to the semi Finals of every World Cup since the game went pro. The league is easily the biggest on the planet and will be bigger in 2011-2012 with the two new sides being big French cities. Crowds are getting bigger, teams are getting richer and also better. Montpellier finalists was remarkable. Look at the XV from the final - Three players from Argentina, two from Georgia, two from Fiji. Three French international players too. In Australia for instance the teams are never going to be good with the current rules. Going back not to long when there were only 3 sides the teams did much better. Today with five teams only the Melbourne Rebels can import players. The others can but in such a small quantity. The result is that since expansion the sides have dropped in competitiveness. The Western Force? The Melbourne Rebels? Both bad sides in Super Rugby. The Brumbies are a perfect explanation. They have gone from being second to the Crusaders to now being third in Australia and look like nothing compared to the Gregan-Larkham side. The Reds are good again as they´ve stacked themselves with the best Aussie players while other sides are left with few good enough for the RWC. There is a solution and its simple - allow more imported players. Obviously Australia doesn´t produce enough good players for five sides. Similar with Ireland having 4 sides. Two are very good, one good but could be better than the other poor. Also, Tommy Bowe plays in Wales. Does this bother you? One thing that I always tell my Kiwi friends who don´t want All Blacks playing in Europe or Japan and don´t want Pacific Islanders in the Super Rugby teams is sponsorship. The All Blacks are sponsored by foreign companies. il.e. Adidas, Iveco and Ford. The workers (players) have strict rules but we´ll take money from anywhere.... [B]snoopy snoopy dog dog [/B] I agree with you about the age. There is another factor overlooked, however. Teams are not going to give the guy on a short term deal game time over the others on long term deals. Galarza played little and didn´t do much for sure but hard for someone to standout when chances are slim. Another example - Chauncey O´Toole for Glasgow. Was on a short term deal due to others being injured and given limted game time. He was much better than the Scottish players from the Warriors but the team wasn´t going to pick him over the guys avaliable since they will be there for the entire season. Possible Emertick with Ulster too. A better player than a number of Ulster players at centre or wing. [B]thomond2006[/B] Yes, MartÃn Bustos Moyano is almost certian to make the Los Pumas squad for New Zealand 2011. He is in the squad of 39 players to train in the USA for a two week camp in July. The other players included who play wing or fullback are Horacio Agulla (Leicester), Lucas Borges (Albi) Gonzalo Camacho (Exeter), Rafael Carballo (Union Bordeaux Begles, France), Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino (Montpellier), Juan Imhoff (Duendes R.C) and MartÃn Rodruguez Gurruchaga (Stade Français). Personally I think he´ll be included with the Pumas back 3 vs England to be 11 Agulla, 15 RodrÃguez, 14 Camacho. The other two to make the squad, for me, would be Gonzalez Amorosino and Bustos Moyano. But neither in the match day 22. - I want only two backs on the Pumas bench to enable the selection of two props. See the full list here: [URL]http://rugbyworldcup-argentina2023.blogspot.com/2011/06/40-final-candidates-for-argentina-rugby.html[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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