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<blockquote data-quote="welshoptimist" data-source="post: 841448" data-attributes="member: 74878">itoje is a great player but saying asking if he is the greatest of all time? the simple answer is no, not even close&nbsp; he isn&#039;t even the best player in the English side billy vunipola takes that by a country mile, one thing England Ireland and wales all share is their amazing ability to overate players, liam Williams is a good player, but his positioning and defensive work can be awful, I hope Saracens can sort that out, zebo is so overrated as well, as a welsh fan and a blues fan I am quite relieved when I watch munster/Ireland and see that zebo is the full back, his pace as gone he cant kick and he is average in defence, mike brown is another player who shouldn&#039;t be near an international team, I think its time we all woke up and started playing young talented players and developing them, otherwise the gap between the NH and the SH will start to get bigger again</blockquote>

[QUOTE="welshoptimist, post: 841448, member: 74878"] itoje is a great player but saying asking if he is the greatest of all time? the simple answer is no, not even close he isn't even the best player in the English side billy vunipola takes that by a country mile, one thing England Ireland and wales all share is their amazing ability to overate players, liam Williams is a good player, but his positioning and defensive work can be awful, I hope Saracens can sort that out, zebo is so overrated as well, as a welsh fan and a blues fan I am quite relieved when I watch munster/Ireland and see that zebo is the full back, his pace as gone he cant kick and he is average in defence, mike brown is another player who shouldn't be near an international team, I think its time we all woke up and started playing young talented players and developing them, otherwise the gap between the NH and the SH will start to get bigger again [/QUOTE]

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