This doesn't mean he's been playing badly though?
Kinghorn makes headlines as he's been good, but Scotland chuck it about a lot and he's a big part of that game plan
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Kinghorn makes headlines as he's been good, but Scotland chuck it about a lot and he's a big part of that game plan
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Keenan was probably the only Irish player to match up / outplay his opposite number last week too, was genuinely class. Had the big moments over Kinghorn in Edinburgh too I thought, the try that put it to bed was his call and chase that exposed Kinghorn being out of position.
I'd say Kinghorn is edging it (although moving him to wing to accomodate makes a lot of sense to me) but he'll also likely be joining the squad late so it could sway things in Keenan's favour.
Russell has his faults but who gets picked before him.
Yeah FH is definitely an area of concern for Farrell I'd imagine. There's no one head and shoulders above the rest. Russell should get it based on experience, but you'd still be worried what kind of performance he might put in.
To a point, I agree. However, I'm still ok with Russell being first choice, it's the form from those behind him that would have me thinking.
Prendergast could be brilliant but had a nightmare against France.
Marcus Smith is played out of position too often in my opinion but he's a great option to have.
Fin Smith deserves a place. I think he's tried and tested and will only get better.
I await the incoming with my tin hat on
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Very true, it will be down to what Farrell can get out of him. I don't think him and Townsend are particularly close but that's to be expected as they are both fly halves and the room isn't big enough for both their heads
Like most 10s, if the forwards are going well then rarely is there a bad performance. Russell has the talent to make the difference ahead of his competition and has far more experience than anyone else in contention.
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Agreed. He is the one world class FH we have for Lions selection
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Oh go on just play the Curry brothers - go smash.
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I'm expecting Josh VdF to go nuclear on the Lions tour to be honest. Test Lion is really the only thing he has to add to his honours list so he's up there with any Irish player ever.
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I'd like to see Pollock as the bolter. Looks like a 100 capper.
VdF I have a weird feeling is going to miss out but I actually agree he strikes me as the type of player who would come in under radar and get player of the tournement.
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Miss out on the plane or 23?
Can only see the 10s, Hansen and Henshaw missing out among our starters. England finished ahead of us deservedly but Ireland were still 17/18 against other Lions teams in the 4 year cycle, hard to see us not having the most representation.
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With Lawrence injured I don't think even Henshaw has much of a chance of missing out. People keep bigging up Jordan's versatility but as far as I'm aware Farrell can pick a squad that is as big as he likes and call up any player he likes at any time for essentially any reason. Versatility shouldn't really be a factor, it's not a RWC squad with loads of limitations and red tape, he can afford to focus on specialists.
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Unflappable Maro Itoje proves he now deserves Lions captaincy | Gerard Meagher
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Still, think Farrell chooses Doris.
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Agreed, and think it's the right choice tooUnflappable Maro Itoje proves he now deserves Lions captaincy | Gerard Meagher
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Still, think Farrell chooses Doris.
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I think versatility becomes more relevant within a test 23 when you only have two backs on the bench. I think Faz could get away with a 5:3 split v Australia but I highly doubt he'll break from 6:2.
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Fin Smith should be going based on the last two rounds.
Darcy Graham also has to go for me. We don't have many wingers with his footwork and ability to create something out of nothing.
Darcy Graham also has to go for me. We don't have many wingers with his footwork and ability to create something out of nothing.
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OK, so post tournament overview:
Ireland weren't quite as good as they have been, I still expect them to dominate selection but it's not as clear cut as it might have been.
England and Scotland have had good individual performers that will have given Farrell food for thought. Some whose stock has risen, some who have potentially played their way out of contention.
Wales … sadly, I can't see how anyone has made a case for being selected. Morgan is the only one close to being in contention but unfortunately for him, he plays in one of the most hotly contested positions. Conversely, Tomos Williams and possibly even Blair Murray could be wildcards due to relative lack of options at 9 and 15.
My squad:
1. Porter / Genge / Schoeman
2. Sheehan / Kelleher / George
3. Furlong* / Stuart / Bealham (Fagerson)
4. Itoje / Ryan
5. Beirne / McCarthy / Chessum
6. T. Curry / Ritchie
7. Van der Flier / Darge
8. Doris / Conan / Earl
9. Gibson-Park / Mitchell / Williams
10. Russell / F. Smith / Prendergast
11. Lowe / van der Merwe
12. Aki / Henshaw / Tuipolotu* (Jordan)
13. Jones / Ringrose
14. Hansen / Graham / Freeman
15. Keenan / Kinghorn / Jordan** (M. Smith)
*Injury permitting
**Utility back
With post-tournament clarity, I didn't find it that hard to pick TBH.
Most contentious slots for me are 7 (Darge vs. Morgan), 9 (Williams vs. White), utility back (Jordan vs. M. Smith).
Ireland: 19
England: 10
Scotland: 9
Wales: 1
Ireland weren't quite as good as they have been, I still expect them to dominate selection but it's not as clear cut as it might have been.
England and Scotland have had good individual performers that will have given Farrell food for thought. Some whose stock has risen, some who have potentially played their way out of contention.
Wales … sadly, I can't see how anyone has made a case for being selected. Morgan is the only one close to being in contention but unfortunately for him, he plays in one of the most hotly contested positions. Conversely, Tomos Williams and possibly even Blair Murray could be wildcards due to relative lack of options at 9 and 15.
My squad:
1. Porter / Genge / Schoeman
2. Sheehan / Kelleher / George
3. Furlong* / Stuart / Bealham (Fagerson)
4. Itoje / Ryan
5. Beirne / McCarthy / Chessum
6. T. Curry / Ritchie
7. Van der Flier / Darge
8. Doris / Conan / Earl
9. Gibson-Park / Mitchell / Williams
10. Russell / F. Smith / Prendergast
11. Lowe / van der Merwe
12. Aki / Henshaw / Tuipolotu* (Jordan)
13. Jones / Ringrose
14. Hansen / Graham / Freeman
15. Keenan / Kinghorn / Jordan** (M. Smith)
*Injury permitting
**Utility back
With post-tournament clarity, I didn't find it that hard to pick TBH.
Most contentious slots for me are 7 (Darge vs. Morgan), 9 (Williams vs. White), utility back (Jordan vs. M. Smith).
Ireland: 19
England: 10
Scotland: 9
Wales: 1
