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<blockquote data-quote="Umaga&#039;s Witness" data-source="post: 951308" data-attributes="member: 65365"><p>Glad someone agrees. </p><p>I agree that the ref can't always pick it, which brings me to another pet peeve - when referees just judge any kind of fumble as a knock on just because they are too lazy to actually watch to see whether it was forward or backward, or even which player it hit. </p><p></p><p>I've also seen really obvious cases of passes that have gone backward but then bounces forward given as a forward pass, for example at the start of the Japan Tonga game last night. The definition ( when I finally found it) is pretty clear that a forward pass has to be forward out of the hand, therefore it would be pretty hard to argue a pass as forward if it went backward out of the hand and then bounces forward. To be clear I've seen it ruled this way on several occasions when not only was it backwards out of the hand but it also hit the ground further towards the players own goal line from where he had released it (in other words the interpretation wasn't muddied by any momentum effect, they were straight up just wrong).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umaga's Witness, post: 951308, member: 65365"] Glad someone agrees. I agree that the ref can’t always pick it, which brings me to another pet peeve - when referees just judge any kind of fumble as a knock on just because they are too lazy to actually watch to see whether it was forward or backward, or even which player it hit. I’ve also seen really obvious cases of passes that have gone backward but then bounces forward given as a forward pass, for example at the start of the Japan Tonga game last night. The definition ( when I finally found it) is pretty clear that a forward pass has to be forward out of the hand, therefore it would be pretty hard to argue a pass as forward if it went backward out of the hand and then bounces forward. To be clear I’ve seen it ruled this way on several occasions when not only was it backwards out of the hand but it also hit the ground further towards the players own goal line from where he had released it (in other words the interpretation wasn’t muddied by any momentum effect, they were straight up just wrong). [/QUOTE]
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