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2025 Guinness Six Nations
Italy v Wales, 23/02/13
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<blockquote data-quote="Jbobo" data-source="post: 552209" data-attributes="member: 62085"><p>Yeah to be honest i am quite stretched to think of many game changing/winning moments from Orquera, but then again, there aren't that many winning moments in general to choose from. I do remember his opportunist try against Wales in 2005 though, where he scored a try showing great speed and footwork to level the score to 7-7. He is also a better distributor, and works the backs much better than Burton. Plus he has scored more tries than Burton for Italy in the past. Although Burton may be more consistent if they are playing it safe, that tactic isn't going to work consistently against strong attacking teams. Better take a chance with Orquera and at least have a go at the Welsh backline instead of settling for trying to turn the game into an arm wrestle. Having said that, the weather inst looking good for tomorrow, so with that in mind it will probably be a territory game, so Burton may be the better choice in these circumstances as he plays deeper and safer.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In fairness Wales just didn't show up in the first half against Ireland, in the second half we showed more imagination and creativity than France have in the entirety of their first two matches. You seem to be underestimating Wales based on only the last two matches in your posts, but you still think that based on the last two matches France have a good chance of beating England in that thread and have said that France have shown some creativity but Wales have shown none. Seems odd to me, as you don't score tries without any creativity or imagination, and Wales have scored just as many as England and twice as many as France. Bear in mind that our first two games have been against Ireland and France, arguably the most difficult start to the championship of any side. </p><p></p><p>If the weather is bad, yes the game will conservative. Just as the England/France match will be if the weather is the same. If the conditions are good, i'd wager that we will see just as much creativity and imagination from the Welsh/Italians then we will from the English/French, if not more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jbobo, post: 552209, member: 62085"] Yeah to be honest i am quite stretched to think of many game changing/winning moments from Orquera, but then again, there aren't that many winning moments in general to choose from. I do remember his opportunist try against Wales in 2005 though, where he scored a try showing great speed and footwork to level the score to 7-7. He is also a better distributor, and works the backs much better than Burton. Plus he has scored more tries than Burton for Italy in the past. Although Burton may be more consistent if they are playing it safe, that tactic isn't going to work consistently against strong attacking teams. Better take a chance with Orquera and at least have a go at the Welsh backline instead of settling for trying to turn the game into an arm wrestle. Having said that, the weather inst looking good for tomorrow, so with that in mind it will probably be a territory game, so Burton may be the better choice in these circumstances as he plays deeper and safer. In fairness Wales just didn't show up in the first half against Ireland, in the second half we showed more imagination and creativity than France have in the entirety of their first two matches. You seem to be underestimating Wales based on only the last two matches in your posts, but you still think that based on the last two matches France have a good chance of beating England in that thread and have said that France have shown some creativity but Wales have shown none. Seems odd to me, as you don't score tries without any creativity or imagination, and Wales have scored just as many as England and twice as many as France. Bear in mind that our first two games have been against Ireland and France, arguably the most difficult start to the championship of any side. If the weather is bad, yes the game will conservative. Just as the England/France match will be if the weather is the same. If the conditions are good, i'd wager that we will see just as much creativity and imagination from the Welsh/Italians then we will from the English/French, if not more. [/QUOTE]
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