Ireland v South Africa - 22/11/2025

[saulan]

Aaaaand… there it is

Edit: At least the yellow

 

[big ginger 8]

I love scrums, the dominant team should absolutely get something out of it. But how does this attract anyone to the game?

 

[Reiser99]

This game sucks in terms of entertaining rugby. Fair play to S.A playing to their strengths, but it's bloody boring.

 

[dirty harry]

I love scrums, the dominant team should absolutely get something out of it. But how does this attract anyone to the game?

IM begging for a penalty try just so we can move on ffs

 

[mkersyshull]

I didn't think you can have a scrum from a scrum pen? Or is that just free kicks?

 

[saulan]

I love scrums, the dominant team should absolutely get something out of it. But how does this attract anyone to the game?

I don’t think it does. But this isn’t an SA issue here. Honestly this is kind of unacceptable from an Irish perspective that they are so poor at the scrum. These penalties are coming so fast. 2-3 seconds in, because it’s blatant at how poor Ireland are

 

[TommiG88]

It feels like we’ve had 20mins of scrums this half

 

[Reiser99]

I love scrums, the dominant team should absolutely get something out of it. But how does this attract anyone to the game?

This is where I maintain. Max free kick if both teams scrummage legally, penalties only for deliberately collapsing or infringing.

 

[Saintjay]

SA are just better at it than anyone. Unless they change the laws it's not going to change. If my team had there scrum I'd be spitting feathers if they changed the laws.

 

[dirty harry]

I don't think it does. But this isn't an SA issue here. Honestly this is kind of unacceptable from an Irish perspective that they are so poor at the scrum. These penalties are coming so fast. 2-3 seconds in, because it's blatant at how poor Ireland are

This SA team really have channelled 2003 England...

 

[big ginger 8]

I don't think it does. But this isn't an SA issue here. Honestly this is kind of unacceptable from an Irish perspective that they are so poor at the scrum. These penalties are coming so fast. 2-3 seconds in, because it's blatant at how poor Ireland are

I don't put any blame on SA playing to their strength. Ireland have one second row on the pitch.

I do think refs don't have a clue and neither do WR.

 

[Reiser99]

SA are just better at it than anyone. Unless they change the laws it's not going to change. If my team had there scrum I'd be spitting feathers if they changed the laws.

I honestly still worry if there is a fully professional game in 20 years with the finances across many nations. I feel rugby is heading backwards in terms of viewership and so if it stops boring games like this then absolutely it should be changed. Maybe S.A will regret it when they can't keep sending players abroad to earn a living.

 

[dirty harry]

I honestly still worry if there is a fully professional game in 20 years with the finances across many nations. I feel rugby is heading backwards in terms of viewership and so if it stops boring games like this then absolutely it should be changed. Maybe S.A will regret it when they can't keep sending players abroad to earn a living.

RUgby has been bypassed by many other sports in global markets, and its absolutely down to World Rugby making the game overly complex.

Its all due to safety, all this mess. Spent 50 years making players bigger, stronger, quicker, more powerfull, then tried to stop them hitting each other...

 

[saulan]

Maybe S.A will regret it when they can't keep sending players abroad to earn a living.

Most of our players are in the URC or Japan. The URC is super healthy and Japan’s league is growing from strength to strength

 

[jackie d]

I don't think it does. But this isn't an SA issue here. Honestly this is kind of unacceptable from an Irish perspective that they are so poor at the scrum. These penalties are coming so fast. 2-3 seconds in, because it's blatant at how poor Ireland are

South africans went to ground straight away on the last 2. Nothing to see here ref resets. Two tier reffing tonight

 

[dirty harry]

Crowley is performing miracled at FB currently lol

 

[jackie d]

Most of our players are in the URC or Japan. The URC is super healthy and Japan's league is growing from strength to strength

Ye whinged to get into that too

 

[saulan]

Honestly has Ireland been outside their half during this half?

 

[dirty harry]

How have ireland not conceded in that yellow?!?!?

 

[saulan]

Ye whinged to get into that too

I’m not getting into non-good faith debate with you on this. Almost all URC fans will agree that the SA teams being added to the URC have added a lot to the competition