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<blockquote data-quote="Prestwick" data-source="post: 246851"><p>You do know how silly attaching statements of "feeling of superiority" and "********" to an <em>entire frickin' nation of 50 odd million</em> does sound incredibly silly.</p><p></p><p>Please don't take what a couple of thousand middle class luvvies say from their Ivory towers in the Home Counties as gospel for everyone from Lands end to the Scottish borders. Don't confuse pride and longing for past glories as expectations for the automatic steamrolling of the opposition (in which case the Welsh would be just as guilty as we are). </p><p></p><p>Living in Scotland taught me a lot of things. Mainly that there is a hell of a lot of misunderstandings between the English and the other nations of the British Isles because everyone has drifted apart that much. The Scots and Welsh always think that the English are haughty and arrogant whereas the English always think that the Scots and the Welsh have a massive chip on their shoulder. Both are partly true but only are these traits exhibited in the big city urban classes. </p><p></p><p>If people talked to each other a bit more and partied with each other a bit more, they'd find that these myths are largely that: myths. There is no conspiracy against the Scots, the Scots don't sponge off of the English taxpayer, the Welsh do have an important part to play and shag humans, not sheep, humans. Not everyone in Ulster is a terrorist or even Christian!</p><p></p><p>Bottom line, you go and meet the <em>real</em> people of England with their motley mix of nationalities such as the British Asians of the Midlands and the North who wear their England cricket tops with pride for example and <em>then</em> come back to me and see if you can find some evidence to back your decades out of date assumption of arrogance that is the esprit de corps of the <em>minority</em> of England. </p><p></p><p>The majority? We're not arrogant, just firmly rooted in cynical reality. End of discussion.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Why is it every other year I have to write a "Chill guys, can't we all get along" post for Ireland vs England? :lol:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prestwick, post: 246851"] You do know how silly attaching statements of "feeling of superiority" and "********" to an [i]entire frickin' nation of 50 odd million[/i] does sound incredibly silly. Please don't take what a couple of thousand middle class luvvies say from their Ivory towers in the Home Counties as gospel for everyone from Lands end to the Scottish borders. Don't confuse pride and longing for past glories as expectations for the automatic steamrolling of the opposition (in which case the Welsh would be just as guilty as we are). Living in Scotland taught me a lot of things. Mainly that there is a hell of a lot of misunderstandings between the English and the other nations of the British Isles because everyone has drifted apart that much. The Scots and Welsh always think that the English are haughty and arrogant whereas the English always think that the Scots and the Welsh have a massive chip on their shoulder. Both are partly true but only are these traits exhibited in the big city urban classes. If people talked to each other a bit more and partied with each other a bit more, they'd find that these myths are largely that: myths. There is no conspiracy against the Scots, the Scots don't sponge off of the English taxpayer, the Welsh do have an important part to play and shag humans, not sheep, humans. Not everyone in Ulster is a terrorist or even Christian! Bottom line, you go and meet the [i]real[/i] people of England with their motley mix of nationalities such as the British Asians of the Midlands and the North who wear their England cricket tops with pride for example and [i]then[/i] come back to me and see if you can find some evidence to back your decades out of date assumption of arrogance that is the esprit de corps of the [i]minority[/i] of England. The majority? We're not arrogant, just firmly rooted in cynical reality. End of discussion. EDIT: Why is it every other year I have to write a "Chill guys, can't we all get along" post for Ireland vs England? :lol: [/QUOTE]
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